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Why do Joshua fans keep trying to throw someone else ahead of Joshua for Wilder
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Originally posted by larryxxx. View PostNo as a fan we should want the best to fight the best. Why would you support **** fights? This is the fight to make, let them all sit down and crunch the numbers. As a fan you should want this fight now!!
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Originally posted by billeau2 View PostFrom a Fighter's point of view? Study your boxing history please... For most of boxing history fighters were compelled to fight the best with some notable caveats, including in the early days racial discrimination against blacks, the occasional fighter being ducked who was not thought of as much of an opponent but who was a danger... guys like Charlie Burley and Paul Williams, Margarito even.
Boxing history is written in the contests of the best versus the best. Even crooked King knew this was true and would try to make those fights that mattered. Fighters want to be the best! To be the best you have to fight the best! It is management and trying to be lucrative at the expense of the sport that is the problem.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostThey all bring more to the table than Wilder. Wilder didn't want to improve his marketability and make $4.5 mil at the same time, he chose to fight for $1.4 mil instead. His mouth is saying he wants Joshua, his actions say differently.
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The history of boxing, the dialectic of synthesis to new thesis, is written in the matches. Mike Tyson, a historian of the sweet science, as well as a great fighter in his day, was told by his people, that the very notion of different political parties having a red and blue designation comes from a match between each respective party's champ, one for the red and one for the blue.
When we look at the sport, we see greatness proved in the matches, does it really matter that the first lucrative commercial gate was during the Killian Sullivan fight? Or that sports superstars came out in the roaring 20's and Dempsey broke financial records?
No! what we see and care about are the contests pitting the best against the best. Technique was validated during these matches... Could the wrecking ball puncher be beaten by the boxer?
So seriously people... Wilder is the puncher, and AJ is the guy who has skills, it is a classic match up. Whyte is a decent fighter, he may even have a chance to beat one of the big boys, and the other guys also will have their trials and tribulations...
Right now in the premier division of boxing the two guys on the radar are Wilder and Joshua, and that is the fight that needs to get made! The wild punching man against the boxer puncher, who got by the old champ. CLASSIC.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post99% of fighters go for the biggest money if they believe they can win lets not try and pretend otherwise. Luckily the majority of the time the biggest money and the best are usually the same fight.
Joshua and Wilder can easily be promoted. Then it will be the best fight for the money. But Joshua's management has to not be allowed to protect Joshua by avoiding this fight.
And again you are confusing fighters and their management: No fighter would accept their management coming out and saying: "This guy might kick your a ss so we will duck him until he gets old, or hit by a train." Fighters don't think like that.
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Because its not clear he is one of the top 2, its not clear whether he is even the top US heavyweight, why is that so hard for u fanboys to understand?
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