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Old 02-14-2020, 01:09 PM #41
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why do people even waste time making threads about mayweather


some posters go full Re&ard when his name is mentioned. wouldnt give the man credit if you paid them lol
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all those folks who posted for Hopkins and hardly any posted or explained their position


thus why i dont do polls on this forum, speak your peace, back your opinion with facts or be ignored lol
LOL yep. The worse threads on this forum are always about Mayweather. What he's done to the psyche of grown men is hilarious and scary.
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:10 PM #42
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They're about the same. Hopkins didn't beat any elite Middleweights and Floyd fought lots of past prime guys but I voted Hopkins because of his fight vs Kovalev when he was in his 50's.
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:19 PM #43
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Hopkins fought Tito Trinidad, the guy who beat Shane Mosley and Tito Trinidad, Jones, two guys who one punch KO'ed Jones, Jermain Taylor, the guy who one punch KO'ed an undefeated Jermain Taylor, and Kovalev before he turned into a punching bag...
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Old 02-14-2020, 02:13 PM #44
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who fought tougher comp Hopkins...
there's no tougher comp than a prime, undefeated jones, prime, undefeated tito, an undefeated slightly past prime Calzaghe, and prime, undefeated Kovalev…

the closest to that Floyd has is a prime undefeated hatton, corrales, and canelo
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Jones was not prime, he wasn't prime until a few years later. Prime Trinidad was 147 Trinidad. Anyone claiming 160 Trinidad was prime quite frankly doesn't know **** about Trinidad.
You're full of ****. Jones was already the top rated MW by then and he made that crystal clear by beating Hopkins and then James Toney a year later. Trinidad was considered at the peak of his powers at that time. He was favored over Hopkins despite having recently moved up. How long is a fighter's prime according to your stupid ass? Is it one fight long for you? If that's the case, in which fight was Tito in his prime, according to you? He fought Bernard when he was 28 yrs old. Within the two years prior to that fight he had unified the WW title against ODLH, won and unified the JMW title (against Reid and Vargas, respectively) and won the WBA MW title against Joppy. Oh, and he was still undefeated. You pound your chest a lot while declaring that everybody else is a boxing noob, but what do you really know about this sport?

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Old 02-14-2020, 02:35 PM #46
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You're full of ****. Jones was already the top rated MW by then and he made that crystal clear by beating Hopkins and then James Toney a year later. Trinidad was considered at the peak of his powers at that time. He was favored over Hopkins despite having recently moved up. How long is a fighter's prime according to your stupid ass? Is it one fight long for you? If that's the case, in which fight was Tito in his prime. He fought Bernard when he was 28 yrs old. Within the two years prior to that fight he had unified the WW title against ODLH, won and unified the JMW title (against Reid and Vargas, respectively) and won the WBA MW title against Joppy. Oh, and he was still undefeated. You pound your chest a lot while declaring that everybody else is a boxing noob, but what do you really know about this sport?
He not only beat Vargas , Reid and Joppy he destroyed them.This guy is a clown on that absurd take alone.Big difference in between having a different POV on fighters while making legit points and calling everyone a novice or casual like he is GODs gift to boxing knowledge while moving the goal post and talking mostly nonsense.
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You're full of ****. Jones was already the top rated MW by then and he made that crystal clear by beating Hopkins and then James Toney a year later. Trinidad was considered at the peak of his powers at that time. He was favored over Hopkins despite having recently moved up. How long is a fighter's prime according to your stupid ass? Is it one fight long for you? If that's the case, in which fight was Tito in his prime, according to you? He fought Bernard when he was 28 yrs old. Within the two years prior to that fight he had unified the WW title against ODLH, won and unified the JMW title (against Reid and Vargas, respectively) and won the WBA MW title against Joppy. Oh, and he was still undefeated. You pound your chest a lot while declaring that everybody else is a boxing noob, but what do you really know about this sport?
The guy you quoted used the wrong term, undersized is what he was looking for. Tito was prime yes but undersized or small vs Hopkins.

Trinidad's perfect weight class was 154, his body was designed for that division. Anything higher than 154 and Tito loses.
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The guy you quoted used the wrong term, undersized is what he was looking for. Tito was prime yes but undersized or small vs Hopkins.

Trinidad's perfect weight class was 154, his body was designed for that division. Anything higher than 154 and Tito loses.
Absolutely not , he uses the word Prime 4 times in that quote alone with the proper context even mentioned prime and RJJ when was he undersized during that period ?.The guy is just an idiot.
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The guy you quoted used the wrong term, undersized is what he was looking for. Tito was prime yes but undersized or small vs Hopkins.

Trinidad's perfect weight class was 154, his body was designed for that division. Anything higher than 154 and Tito loses.
I think that's a fair point. I suppose its always important to clearly define terms when debating anything. What precisely is meant by words like prime, physical prime, peak, etc. Lots of factors to consider when deciding what version of a fighter was the very best one. As we know, a fighter's physical prime doesn't necessarily align with his best or most significant wins. For example, Floyd's greatest win, a UD over Pac wasn't his greatest performance and both fighters would have much preferred to step into the ring as a prior version of themselves.
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Losing to #8 P4P Jones is better than beating #2 P4P Pacquiao in your opinion? This is the stupidity on this forum.
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Jones was undefeated and 18 months away from beating James Toney - a guy who is a legit ATG and no less than P4P #2 at that time.

Pacquiao, OTOH, had already been beaten by Bradley and KTFO courtesy of JMM by the time Floyd got his hands on him.

I'm sorry but 1993 Roy Jones jr is a stiffer test when compared to an ole' bum shoulder already beaten and KTFO'ed 2015 Manny Paquiao..
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