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  • #31
    Originally posted by ElBossHogg™ View Post
    as opposed to haymon who depends on investments to stay alive?

    People are buying GBP, TOPRANK contents, haymon is paying people to air his content.
    When Schaeffer left GBP all the investors left too. Oscar had to buy out their shares. Top Rank can't even find someone to put up an extra million dollars for the Loma-Walters fight. Someone gave Haymon half a billion dollars because they thought his idea will work

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    • #32
      Originally posted by paulf View Post
      Professional courtesy??? This from the guy who wrote, on ESPN's website, that he wished Adrien Broner would "grow up" this year??

      Fuck Dan Rafael.
      That's a terrible example lol. That one gets you upset?

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      • #33
        Al's the boss. It makes the simple people in the world get mad.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          That's a terrible example lol. That one gets you upset?
          A professional journalist wouldn't start a ****ing beef with a boxer. And a journalist that beefs with boxers shouldnt be calling other people unprofessional.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
            Dan Rafael is a joke. He's Steve Kim-lite. His Twitter and ESPN page are literally and open promotion for HBO affiliated promoters (TR, GBP, ME, RNS), except for Andre Ward. Just like Steve Kim, he hates Andre Ward.
            I don't think so. Kim never liked Ward. Rafael put Ward above Pac after Bradley 1, which he had as a whitewash, like many. Of course he's soured on the guy with his shenanigans past 4 years, most did

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            • #36
              Originally posted by paulf View Post
              A professional journalist wouldn't start a ****ing beef with a boxer. And a journalist that beefs with boxers shouldnt be calling other people unprofessional.
              That's not beef, everyone thinks he should grow up. Not to say Rafael won't get unprofessional, but coulda picked a better example. He really had it in for Haye and beat the toe thing to death

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
                Pretty weak start to a 5-part series.

                There was maybe one line that was even remotely interesting...
                Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
                Pretty weak quote. Haymon doesn't owe NBC anything. Haymon is paying NBC for airtime. As long as he made the payments, he fulfilled his end of the deal. If NBC is interested in a licensing agreement with PBC, then I'm sure Haymon would be happy to share his business plan.
                Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                That's not the way to get a Tv deal, alienating network executives. At least play nice till you seal the deal
                I wonder what NBC executive is the source. According to high level NBC executives they know Haymon's business plan. He sat down with them and presented it to them. This is the only article out there that actually interviewed people involved in the deal. Everything else is speculation and unnamed outside sources

                So it was that Haymon, his longtime attorney Mike Ring and Waddell & Reed fund manager Ryan Caldwell found themselves across from NBC Sports Chairman Mark Lazarus and Jon Miller, president of programming, late in 2013, discussing a plan that would showcase Haymon’s fighters on the network on weekend afternoons and Saturday nights....As he laid out his plan, which would include not only NBC but other broadly distributed networks, it became clear that Haymon’s company might have to bleed upward of $100 million — and perhaps two or three times that much — as it built a brand and an audience, a proof-of-concept phase that would then enable him to cash in on the rights fees that continue to trend upward across sports.

                Caldwell was there to show NBC that Haymon Boxing had the wherewithal to not only launch the PBC, but sustain it, with the pledge of upward of $425 million from a $40 billion fund that he co-managed for Waddell & Reed, the same fund that had invested about $1.5 billion in Formula One.

                For all that Haymon brought to the meeting in terms of vision, it was Caldwell who had what NBC needed to see that day.

                Miller went back to the PBC to fine-tune a plan. Then he went to Los Angeles to present it to NBC’s entertainment division, pitching it on the idea of freeing up prime time on Saturday night —- not so tough a sell because the network has gotten killed there for years. Miller had to convince them he could do better than what they already had, making the pitch that a show like the PBC — which might initially attract an older audience — could serve as a strong lead-in to local news and then “Saturday Night Live.”

                It looked cost-effective enough to make it worth the risk.
                http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...epth/Main.aspx

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  That's not beef, everyone thinks he should grow up. Not to say Rafael won't get unprofessional, but coulda picked a better example. He really had it in for Haye and beat the toe thing to death
                  How many times has fat fan disrespected other boxers like Toney for being fat or Rigo for being boring? But he always praises Hopkins

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                    That's not beef, everyone thinks he should grow up. Not to say Rafael won't get unprofessional, but coulda picked a better example. He really had it in for Haye and beat the toe thing to death
                    Is this professional? Should a reporter be picking twitter fights with a boxer because that boxer won't fight a guy the reporter wants him to fight? Is Rafael a reporter or promoter?





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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                      Is this professional? Should a reporter be picking twitter fights with a boxer because that boxer won't fight a guy the reporter wants him to fight? Is Rafael a reporter or promoter?





                      What a Fuccing disrespectful fat piece of shtt

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