Charles "Sonny" Liston vs. Rocky Marciano

[K-DOGG]

Not true, the shoulder incident was confirmed by a doctor at a hopital after the fight.

Honestly, that's news to me. Every special I've seen on the fight or article I've read about the fight more or less denied anything was wrong with Sonny's shoulder.

[Yogi]

Not true, the shoulder incident was confirmed by a doctor at a hopital after the fight.

And it was only one doctor who confirmed the injury, as there were about six (maybe more) who examined Liston after the fight and all confirmed the injury was legit.

[K-DOGG]

Well, there you have it. I'm outvoted.

Out of curiosity...not that I don't believe you guys; but is there anywhere I can read these accounts?

[Southpaw Stinger]

Honestly, that's news to me. Every special I've seen on the fight or article I've read about the fight more or less denied anything was wrong with Sonny's shoulder.

I always thought Sonny faked the shoulder thing as well but I've read articles and seen parts on documentries that all show that exrays were taken and showed he had detatched his shoulder. I'll try and find a few bits of evidence if you want.

[K-DOGG]

I always thought Sonny faked the shoulder thing as well but I've read articles and seen parts on documentries that all show that exrays were taken and showed he had detatched his shoulder. I'll try and find a few bits of evidence if you want.

That'd be great. Not that I don't believe you; but..well, you know.

[Southpaw Stinger]

That'd be great. Not that I don't believe you; but..well, you know.

It's alright, I wouldn't believe me either!


http://www.answers.com/topic/sonny-liston

- just go down to the bit about Liston vs Clay 1

I'll try to find some more.

[Yogi]

Well, there you have it. I'm outvoted.

Out of curiosity...not that I don't believe you guys; but is there anywhere I can read these accounts?

Well for one quick source, there is this little bit from an AP report dated Feb 26th, 1964;

"Doctor's Findings; DOCTORS CONFIRM INJURY TO LISTON

Feb. 26 -- A team of eight physicians said in a statement issued early this morning that the defeated heavyweight champion, Sonny Liston, had suffered an arm injury that would have prevented him from defending himself in his title fight against Cassius Clay."

[K-DOGG]

It's alright, I wouldn't believe me either!


http://www.answers.com/topic/sonny-liston

- just go down to the bit about Liston vs Clay 1

I'll try to find some more.

Huh, well I'll be damned. You learn something new every day.

Thanks for the link. It's truthfully going to take a while to adjust my mind to this bit of information; but facts are facts. I just can't believe I thought it was B.S. all this time. That'll teach me....falty reporting, you gotta love it.

Thank you again.

[Southpaw Stinger]

It's a pleasure to educate man.

[K-DOGG]

Well for one quick source, there is this little bit from an AP report dated Feb 26th, 1964;

"Doctor's Findings; DOCTORS CONFIRM INJURY TO LISTON

Feb. 26 -- A team of eight physicians said in a statement issued early this morning that the defeated heavyweight champion, Sonny Liston, had suffered an arm injury that would have prevented him from defending himself in his title fight against Cassius Clay."

Thank you too, Yogi. Gees, I feel like a complete boob. Do you have any idea how long I've believed there was no injury?!

I now must go lash myself or something.