How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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North American Union video, ties into bible prophecy of the one world government, the mark (micro chip?) of the beast 666 and the anti-christ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

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Maybe. But if Christ's claims of being "the way and the truth and the life" (St. John 14:6)
were real, then perhaps 'the truth' of His teachings might also BE reality.

No! Don't misunderstand me. There are no 'magic words'.
It's just your own prayer/expression of submission by asking for a 'so-called Spirit' that God
offers which helps you understand.

With faith we can accept the words of Christ and we can ask God to strengthen our faith. But without it how can we ask God for anything?
The only way i can see how to ask a God u dont believe in to help u, is if u have the yearning to believe, to have faith.
Many people do this all the time all over the world with their different religions. But those religions contadict each other.
Which one is right?
That is more than a question of faith.

Without getting caught up on the details, I think you understand the overall point:
If our children, who we love, ask us for something they need, we wouldn't give them something hazardous to their health instead.
In the same way, God, who's a much better parent than us, will give us this Spirit to help us understand when we ask for it.

I hear your message loud and clear though: Why wouldn't God automatically give us this Spirit without us having to ask for it?

Well, asking for it requires a certain condition of the inner you, doesn't it?

It requires what we mentioned before:
It would require you to be 'easily led', 'vulnerable', 'naive', 'submissive', and 'dependent' as an adult.
The condition of the heart MATTERS to God. Scripture says:

The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart. 1 Samuel 16:7
Scripture also says:
[God] wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth. 1 Timothy 2:4
Which brings us back around to the same question: "Then why doesn't He give us what we need as a parent?"
Christ Himself said...
"...[I] will draw all men to myself." John 12:32
If you ever feel drawn, curious, or inquisitive of the things of God, there might be purpose behind being drawn.

Scripture also says:

"No one is righteous
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not even one.
No one is truly wise;
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no one is seeking God"(Romans 3:10 NLT)
It's not natural for us to seek God, so if we ever find ourselves having any desire to question, observe, read, or talk about
the things of God, it might be God's way of intervening while remaining anonymous.

Like i said, wen it comes to eternal damnation, why should God let us stumble around asking these questions of faith?
If u are a terrible sinner for most of ur life but 'find God' and ask for forgiveness, and lead a good Christian life thereon, u will be saved. If on the other hand u have led a decent life but dont have faith, u will not be saved. Its not just about faith, its the consequences for not having faith which confuses me.
Being 'easily led', 'vulnerable', 'naive', 'submissive', and 'dependent' all contradict what it means to be a mature adult. They can all lead people into grave dangers. We teach our children to be the opposite of these.
YET are all qualities which u need to believe in things that dont exist. Its exactly what cult leaders look for when recruiting members.

Right, the 'crutch'. The human desire to create a superior being in hopes of having someone to depend on.
History proves validity to this. As far back as the 'archives of history' go, we can trace back and see that people
have always created all kinds of gods.

But maybe this is further evidence of the purpose of things.
If we were born with an inner instinct to eventually have kids, which God intends us to do,
could we have also been born with an instinct to worship, which is another thing God intends for us?

And Difficulties in life have a way of overcoming the stubbornness of our thinking to go in search of things outside of what we know. In other words, 'when we're lying flat on our backs there's no other way to look but up'.

Similar to a person who at a young age decides to never get married. They can find MANY reasons why they shouldn't until they finally meet mr or mrs right. Then it's no longer a concept, it becomes something more personal. It becomes all about a person instead of an idea.
It's only a concept or an idea, until that 'something' happens. When it does. It breaks the filter of your thinking, and you begin to experience a different side of what you were skeptical of.

People have always created their Gods. Some say religion was mans first attempt at science, giving explanations to how we got here and where we are going. And still it answers the questions science cannot.
But an inherent desire is rarely the case. Most people are born into their religion, and the ones who are drawn to it later adopt their nations religion. Its more sociological and geographical than a genetic trait (albeit a spiritual one).
And if its is only through Christ we can be saved then why are people who are born outside of a Christian country drawn to other Gods? They will be punished along with all non-believers.

Even in ur example of marriage, some people may be very cynical about marriage until they fall in love, and they may be happy forever. But many get married for fear of being alone. They find reasons to stay together even if it is a very unhealthy relationship.
Like religious faith, their are real dangers in commiting to such faith based on the desire to believe.

Well, this goes back to our original conversation.
Sincerity doesn't mean your right. A person could sincerely believe they won't die when they jump off of a building, but
the reality of things will catch up to them when they hit the ground.
Just like a person could sincerely believe that God is NOT about love, but about killing. Does that make it
ok? Absolutely not.

U said sincerity is everything. How does a person know if their God is the right God to have faith in? Or that their Gd is making the right choices or what is right and wrong? It isnt their faith, it is reason and logic and a good understanding of WHY things are deemed right and wrong.

Self Delusion? It can be.
The problem is that there's often a disconnect.

Believing in Christ isn't hocus pocus imagination, a mind trip,
or something you set aside until Sundays, Easter, or Christmas.
It's meant for everyday living. It becomes a lifestyle.
For example, Scripture says:
"let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth." 1 John 3:18
Practicing this ONE verse can be very real to those around you, and a challenge to apply, because it goes against our selfish nature...
"everyone looks out for his own interests, not those of Jesus Christ" James 1:22
If we demonstrate the kind of love Christ intends for us to practice, we'll do it not with a
flattering tongue or empty words, but with helpful actions. This alone can be more real than fantasy 'magic', because of how practical it is.

If this is the kind of love you already practice with a spouse or loved ones, then you're already applying something Christ teaches, and not far from this 'road'.
Some 'Christians' are Athiest by practice. That is, they read the word, but they set aside
the teachings by not practicing them. Scripture addresses that issue:
"Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says." James 1:22

In this way, even 'believers' CAN BE deluded.

BUT on regards to those who remain 'unbelievers' forever, IF Christ IS who He says He IS, there might be another delusion:
"The [enemy] of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." 2 Corinthians 4:4

As ive mentioned, there are people from different cultures and beliefs who dedicate their entire lives to their faiths. How do we know who is right? It cannot be based on faith.
And there are many non-believers who live very unselfish lives, and do so because they understand it is the right thing to do, not because of their faith in God. So maybe their are many atheists who are Christians by practice. But because they dont have faith they are going to hell right?

The whole 'morality' argument that ive heard before, questions the motivations behind the good deeds done by both the religious and the non-religious. If u say faith isnt just self delusion because of the lifestyle dedication to helping others that some Christians display, then how do u explain the same actions being done by the non-religious?

Some might even say it is better that the non-believer helps others out of the goodness of their heart compared to the religious helping others because Jesus said they should.

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Banish the devil with the beautiful game!

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Jesus is already in my heart and I have accepted him as my lord and saviour.

The power of god is real.

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Aramaic speaking Ishwa Nazaari (aka. Jesus in english) was not the lord, but a mere humble messenger and servant of Allah. Accept Islam for your salvation.

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That's awesome Haye fan that you accept Jesus Christ! Make sure you share it with others.

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That's awesome Haye fan that you accept Jesus Christ! Make sure you share it with others.

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Please take the time to read this first post and pray that prayer to God at the bottom of it if you haven't yet.

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Please take the time to read this first post and pray that prayer to God at the bottom of it if you haven't yet.