Forum Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Boxing History

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-14-2019, 01:42 AM #1
The Old LefHook The Old LefHook is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: The Redwood Empire
Posts: 3,694
Quoted: 1426 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14
The Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 128.99
Bank: 57,017.04
Total Points: 57,146.03
Default The Fall Of Monroe Brooks

Back in the 70's Monroe Brooks seemed to be a welterweight on the move upward. As a young boxing fan I had my eye on him, expecting big things. He had a few spectacular wins and was a dramatic puncher. He swung so hard that when he missed he practically coiled around himself three times. He had enough gifts and skill to look like a champ in the making.

Then Duran began his run through the welterweights. Duran was not going on a cherry picking tour, so he sought the tough guys immediately upon entering the division, skipping junior welterweight altogether. He saw the deadly Brooks only as a stepping stone.

It was an all time great versus an awful good and bigger prospect with experience that night.

Brooks would have beaten most welterweights in the world at that point in his career, and that was an awful strong welterweight era about to get even stronger.

Duran mauled Brooks. It was beautiful the way he dealt with a talented bigger man. Duran was not going to be denied at all. You would be lucky to find ten welterweights in history who could have beaten the Duran of that night.

Brooks gave a decent account against this absolute cream of ATGs, but the mangling he took from Duran ended his own meteoric ascent and more or less finished him as a hot prospect and fighter. He could have gone farther no doubt had his career been managed more carefully and had he cherry picked a little more wisely.

Yet Duran had looked to be the perfect fight for him at the time, since he was about 29 and only a natural lightweight during his absolute prime. Here now in his late prime he was jumping to welter.

Before the Brooks fight, few understood yet just how great Duran was.

After (actually, during) the Brooks fight, this situation began to clear up dramatically. Duran sacrificed a hella fine fighter that night for his career--Monroe Brooks. In another era he would have gone further, but he served as a Duran stepping stone and gave a good account.

Brooks lost, was never one of the champions as he would be today, but he has more immortality than you or I.

Last edited by The Old LefHook; 11-14-2019 at 01:46 AM.
The Old LefHook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 02:02 AM #2
OctoberRed OctoberRed is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11,627
Quoted: 4304 Post(s)
Rep Power: 84
OctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond reputeOctoberRed has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 89,595.25
Bank: 1,551.01
Total Points: 91,146.26
Long Overdue. For your contribution to NSB. - 1hourRun I concur - jazluvr 
Default

Any video of him online?
OctoberRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 02:08 AM #3
The Old LefHook The Old LefHook is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: The Redwood Empire
Posts: 3,694
Quoted: 1426 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14
The Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 128.99
Bank: 57,017.04
Total Points: 57,146.03
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OctoberRed View Post
Any video of him online?
Yes. I just rewatched the fight on YouTube. I wrote the post from memory. Memory loses precision with time. Brooks had already lost a few fights by that point in his career but he was a very good welterweight. The commentary is pretty good. Great to hear those old voices again.
The Old LefHook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 07:25 AM #4
The Old LefHook The Old LefHook is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: The Redwood Empire
Posts: 3,694
Quoted: 1426 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14
The Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond reputeThe Old LefHook has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 128.99
Bank: 57,017.04
Total Points: 57,146.03
Default

An early reconnoiter for Duran at welter. Brooks had been beaten a few times by then, even knocked out once, but my errant memory was thinking he had been undefeated at the time. A pretty good fighter, though. Duran did more than dip his toes in the waters of welterweight here.
The Old LefHook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 11:43 AM #5
billeau2 billeau2 is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12,244
Quoted: 4430 Post(s)
Rep Power: 38
billeau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond reputebilleau2 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 204,129.97
Bank: 1,941.27
Total Points: 206,071.24
Grade A explanation of punching technique. - - Ram Raid - Knowledgeable - -Weltschmerz- Happy holidays and best wishes for 2016 - -Weltschmerz- Lmao - -Scott-Weiland- Thanks for the kinds words - Chollo Vista 
Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - lparm 
Default

Lefty

I question your account on one issue I have. This is my issue, I admit as much. I don't believe a talented prospect is cut short when they lose to a great fighter. Unless they are beat up horribly...I would even take issue with Left Hand Lacy being put to rest because of Joe Calzone.

There are probably other considerations here. I mention this because there seems this new brain wash out and sold in all the finer brain washing shops...Claiming that a prospect should not fight the best, they may be cut short. meanwhile Tank Davis runs around with Bronner hitting the strip clubs and fighting bums and this presumably brings him along for the likes of Lomo?

They started this same Hoop hula with the kid at lightweight this weekend, Haney was the name, claiming a fight with Loma would just...just...just devistate the poor young man. I call BS. Take the fight, get the experience, learn, keep fighting. Great fighters learn how to learn. I will say that again: "Great fighters learn, how to learn." When great martial arts men do a technique on you, there is an art to watching what they do, as your put into a world of pain, responding to what they are doing. But if one does not do this they will never understand precisely what is being done to them.

Haney has been fighting in Mexico because they would not let him fight at his young age in America. Let the kid get the experience while Tank is protected...Maybe it will motivate some of these others to do the same and not try to remain undefeated.
billeau2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2019, 07:37 PM #6
QueensburyRules QueensburyRules is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 5,328
Quoted: 2153 Post(s)
Rep Power: 12
QueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond reputeQueensburyRules has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 98,142.01
Bank: 1,551.01
Total Points: 99,693.02
Default

- -Boner KTFO Wank outside the Canelo dressing room for the Kov fight.
QueensburyRules is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:30 PM.