Ok GGG fans and Canelo haters!

[redmyth79]

He failed the test because the banned substance was in his system. You can argue whether it was intentional or not but it completely threw a monkey wrench into the rematch. Your right that Canelo has never been small. That's probably why he fought numerous times over the JM limit.

LMAO!! Ok well let's start here. People keep claiming Canelo cheated!! Fact remains he was 100% clean for both fights! That's my point. People try to make excuses for Canelo beating there buddy but fact remains Canelo beat GGG on skill nothing else.

[TonyGe]

LMAO!! Ok well let's start here. People keep claiming Canelo cheated!! Fact remains he was 100% clean for both fights! That's my point. People try to make excuses for Canelo beating there buddy but fact remains Canelo beat GGG on skill nothing else.

He dropped VADA when he had to get to under 154 for Smith. Now he's calling out Floyd and saying he has to fight at 160 because he can't cut weight.

[redmyth79]

He dropped VADA when he had to get to under 154 for Smith. Now he's calling out Floyd and saying he has to fight at 160 because he can't cut weight.

He did not drop VADA till he tested positive for clenbuterol. He never stopped before that.
He is calling Floyd out at 160 because he does have issues trying to make 154 and he is 160 pound champion holding major belts and is the person to beat at 160.
Floyd got him to agree to a 2lb under catch-weight for the fight at 154-152. Canelo said he would never drain himself again for a fight and why would he? He is the A side now and what is there to gain for Canelo dropping to 154? Zero! But if Floyd goes up to challenge Canelo for the middle weight championship that's another weight class Floyd can put on his record but will not because he knows Canelo is a much better fighter today and biggest reason in my opinion is that very loss to Floyd changed Canelo's outlook and made him a much better fighter.
Canelo will meet him at 157-160 but he will not drop to low to give Floyd the advantages he had in the first fight and to fight for the belts they have to fight at at least 155 or above.
Floyd will not fight Canelo for one reason. Canelo will beat him today and he knows that much.

[TonyGe]

He did not drop VADA till he tested positive for clenbuterol. He never stopped before that.
He is calling Floyd out at 160 because he does have issues trying to make 154 and he is 160 pound champion holding major belts and is the person to beat at 160.
Floyd got him to agree to a 2lb under catch-weight for the fight at 154-152. Canelo said he would never drain himself again for a fight and why would he? He is the A side now and what is there to gain for Canelo dropping to 154? Zero! But if Floyd goes up to challenge Canelo for the middle weight championship that's another weight class Floyd can put on his record but will not because he knows Canelo is a much better fighter today and biggest reason in my opinion is that very loss to Floyd changed Canelo's outlook and made him a much better fighter.
Canelo will meet him at 157-160 but he will not drop to low to give Floyd the advantages he had in the first fight and to fight for the belts they have to fight at at least 155 or above.
Floyd will not fight Canelo for one reason. Canelo will beat him today and he knows that much.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-s...oncern--108188

[redmyth79]

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-s...oncern--108188

Talks of such paranoia providing the basis for the change in plans was categorically denied by event handlers, who’ve confirmed that testing of some level will still occur for this bout.


“Really, there’s no story here,” insists Gomez. “This time we will do any and all testing required by Texas and the WBO (World Boxing Organization, whose title Smith owns).”

Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the auspices of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing.

My point was he was enrolled in VADA and regardless of the exact testing he was still tested for Liam Smith fight as it is stated here.
And he was enrolled and took twice as many test for VADA for the second GGG fight. Regardless of what happened after the fight he took all required test and took many more then normal do to the issue in February.
So has Canelo ever tested dirty for a fight? Fact remains No he has not.

[TonyGe]

Talks of such paranoia providing the basis for the change in plans was categorically denied by event handlers, who’ve confirmed that testing of some level will still occur for this bout.


“Really, there’s no story here,” insists Gomez. “This time we will do any and all testing required by Texas and the WBO (World Boxing Organization, whose title Smith owns).”

Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the auspices of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing.

My point was he was enrolled in VADA and regardless of the exact testing he was still tested for Liam Smith fight as it is stated here.
And he was enrolled and took twice as many test for VADA for the second GGG fight. Regardless of what happened after the fight he took all required test and took many more then normal do to the issue in February.
So has Canelo ever tested dirty for a fight? Fact remains No he has not.

#1. You said Canelo never dropped Vada. That is incorrect. He was not enrolled in VADA for the Smith fight. That is not being paranoid that is stating the facts.

#2. Yes Canelo he's been tested and he did not pass while prepping for the Golovkin fight. So he as you put he tested dirty..

[redmyth79]

#1. You said Canelo never dropped Vada. That is incorrect. He was not enrolled in VADA for the Smith fight. That is not being paranoid that is stating the facts.

#2. Yes Canelo he's been tested and he did not pass while prepping for the Golovkin fight. So he as you put he tested dirty..

No he was not. The fight had been set but Canelo was not in camp!
Canelo again has never failed a test for a fight.
Canelo nor any fighter are in camp 3 months or more out for a fight.
He was in year round testing when he failed that test for trace amounts nothing that could or would be beneficial. He did not copped out of v a d a testing for Smith but whatever the case was neither of them were in testing for that fight on the v a d a program. I can only assume that after the WBC fight Canelo had he dropped out of there testing because he was not going to fight for a WBC title anymore because he was rather pissed with them.
I don't truly know all the circumstances leading up to the Liam Smith fight. But Canelo as a whole has been enrolled in VADA testing sense 2011. Is there sometimes that he was not enrolled with them apparently so. But the fact remains that Canelo never came up before or after a fight for PEDs. And clenbuterol once again is a weight cutting agent and would be the last thing a fighter moving up 6lbs and another weight class would need 3 months out lmfao.
Point is as I have stated there is all this one sided hate trying to discredit Canelo. Fact is he is a great fighter and people need to give him a fair shake.
Granted if he beat the world some will always say he has not beat Elvis and that is my point.

[stealthradon]

Dude you ate a illiterate dumbass saying that. Canelo did not avoid testing for Smith as he was on a 365/7 testing schedule for VADA during that fight. Then for the ,2nd fight with GGG he took 5x as many test before the fight and all asked for test before and after. Quit acting ******ed!!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=721187

[TonyGe]

[QUOTE=redmyth79;19312231]Talks of such paranoia providing the basis for the change in plans was categorically denied by event handlers, who’ve confirmed that testing of some level will still occur for this bout.


“Really, there’s no story here,” insists Gomez. “This time we will do any and all testing required by Texas and the WBO (World Boxing Organization, whose title Smith owns).”

Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the auspices of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing.

My point was he was enrolled in VADA and regardless of the exact testing he was still tested for Liam Smith fight as it is stated here.
And he was enrolled and took twice as many test for VADA for the second GGG fight. Regardless of what happened after the fight he took all required test and took many more then normal do to the issue in February.
So has Canelo ever tested dirty for a fight? Fact remains No he has not.[/QUOTE

He failed that test while he was an active boxer signed for a fight. He also declined to take VADA testing when he was under suspension. He also did not do Vada testing for the Smith fight.