When you spend an entire career beating old and c and b class fighters, you will look different when you face a elite level boxer
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Golovkin and Kovalev both turned pvssy in a little over 12 months.
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I wouldn't put Kovalev in the same sentence as Golovkin, Golovkin showed way more heart and wasn't trying to to buy time with the ref after receiving clean shots to the body, he actually fought through the pain. Kovalev was also dirtier than Ward in both fights which is something Kovalev fans don't like to acknowledge.
The issue with Golovkin here is his mouth, downplaying Canelo's power when he clearly respected it in the first fight and the constant talk of Mexican style.Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 09-18-2018, 12:48 PM.
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View PostWhen you spend an entire career beating old and c and b class fighters, you will look different when you face a elite level boxer
i'd like someone to name me a list of fighters that continued to steamroll and knock out elite opposition when they went up in levels. it just doesn't happen. Floyd is the best of his era, but he didn't continue knocking fighters out like he did against lower level ones. He never dominated everyone, arguably lost to Castillo, had close hard fights with the likes of Maidana where one judge and a lot of the public had it a draw. That's just the nature of the sport.
Most top fighters have close fights with fellow top fighters, win or lose. That's why they are very high level fighters, you can't just walk through them, or they would never have even got to that level.
i think that's why fans or haters have to be realistic about fighters and not get too carried away with hype, or not be too over the top with negativity. Basically every legend of the sport would've been called a bum and a fraud on this forum if they were around today and lost a close fight to a fellow top fighter or shared a ring with some of the bums they did.
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Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View PostI wouldn't put Kovalev in the same sentence as Golovkin, Golovkin showed way more heart and wasn't trying to to buy time with the ref after receiving clean shots to the body, he actually fought through the pain. Kovalev was also dirtier than Ward in both fights which is something Kovalev fans don't like to acknowledge.
The issue with Golovkin here is his mouth, downplaying Canelo's power when he clearly respected it in the first fight and the constant talk of Mexican style.
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View PostWhen you spend an entire career beating old and c and b class fighters, you will look different when you face a elite level boxer
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Originally posted by g27region View PostBroken not in a sense of what happened in the fight..."Broken" means he lost all respect in the boxing community after this fight and his career going into oblivion...It can't be compared to Marquez/Pac like some people do, Marquez was always respected in defeat
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostNot really. I think the point is a guy should earn his reputation off of performances against quality opposition, not lower level opposition.
GGG hasn't been able to KO the 2 best guys he fought, Canelo and Jacobs. Both fights were very close although you can make a case ggg won all 3 times.
Failing to get KO wins is obviously going to bring some criticism from fans that were expecting him to look like he did against the Vanes of the world.
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Originally posted by Real King Kong View Postyea fair enough...but guess what, when 2 world class guys fight, most of the time it doesn't end with a ko. winning is winning.
When you do it against top competition it carries more weight.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostI don't disagree with you about winning. My point is if GGG were able to KO canelo or Jacobs the way Floyd KO'd Corrales or Manny KO'd Morales then I think his reputation as a "ko monster" would be more realistic.
When you do it against top competition it carries more weight.
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