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Old 05-23-2019, 10:26 AM #11
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you know you're doing the same thing you just told a pac poster not to do when he called robbery for the horn fight! you said at the end of the day, those guys arms was raised at the end of the fight!

so going by your own logic, at the end of the day, all those guys that manny fought were undefeated when they fought pac! hahaha!! GOT'EM!!!
Oh, I agree. They should count. But I have to be fair in debate.

Bradley still doesn't count though, because that's why I called out the FIRST fight.

It's fine to win a rematch, I give credit where it's due, but facts remain. He LOST the first fight against an undefeated fighter.

So say Thurman beats Manny - which I think he will - that's another UNDEFEATED fighter he'll have lost to and the streak continues. It doesn't matter if he rematches and wins at that point.


The streak is, can Manny Pacquiao beat an UNDEFEATED fighter the first time out? And we're not going by fights way back 20 years ago. We're talking about now because he brought up age. NOW, he hasn't been able to in the FIRST TIME OUT. That's facts
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:35 AM #12
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Oh, I agree. They should count. But I have to be fair in debate.

Bradley still doesn't count though, because that's why I called out the FIRST fight.

It's fine to win a rematch, I give credit where it's due, but facts remain. He LOST the first fight against an undefeated fighter.

So say Thurman beats Manny - which I think he will - that's another UNDEFEATED fighter he'll have lost to and the streak continues. It doesn't matter if he rematches and wins at that point.


The streak is, can Manny Pacquiao beat an UNDEFEATED fighter the first time out? And we're not going by fights way back 20 years ago. We're talking about now because he brought up age. NOW, he hasn't been able to in the FIRST TIME OUT. That's facts
then horn shouldnt count too brah! you cant have it both ways lol. your logic not mines, i'm just playing your game.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:40 AM #13
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Nothing but respect for Pacquiao but I think Thurman is going to use his feet from pillar to post like he did against Leonard Bundu and pot shot Pac the whole fight and win maybe 7 rounds to 5 on the cards.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:47 AM #14
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then horn shouldnt count too brah! you cant have it both ways lol. your logic not mines, i'm just playing your game.
Horn beat Manny while he was undefeated.
Bradley beat Manny while he was undefeated.

Bradley losing the rematch is what doesn't count, because the measure here is: can Manny beat an UNDEFEATED fighter the FIRST TIME he fights them?

By that measure, the only one you can point to is Algieri and I acknowledged that one.
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Round the age up bro. 36+ is the same as 40.

NSB even says when you have that aggressive fight style, you "age faster" (said as the excuse after Mayweather beat Manny).
Dude give it up... Fact is 36 is not 40... lmao Don't fed us with your BS numbers...
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:52 AM #16
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Horn beat Manny while he was undefeated.
Bradley beat Manny while he was undefeated.

Bradley losing the rematch is what doesn't count, because the measure here is: can Manny beat an UNDEFEATED fighter the FIRST TIME he fights them?

By that measure, the only one you can point to is Algieri and I acknowledged that one.
flip flop all you want bruh. not sure why you would have to do that for lol. but you fvvcked up when you posted this --

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NSB says Algieri lost to Ruslan. Doesn't count.

NSB says Tim lost the first fight against Manny and possibly the Marquez fight. Doesn't count.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:54 AM #17
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you know you're doing the same thing you just told a pac poster not to do when he called robbery for the horn fight! you said at the end of the day, those guys arms was raised at the end of the fight!

so going by your own logic, at the end of the day, all those guys that manny fought were undefeated when they fought pac! hahaha!! GOT'EM!!!
Isnít karma a fughin biatch
Horn beat Pac my fughin balls
If anybody wanna give him that victory , at least have the decency to mark it as 1-0 mma not boxing
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:00 AM #18
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Dude give it up... Fact is 36 is not 40... lmao :lol1 Don't fed us with your BS numbers...
That's not my number. That's NSB's number.

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Well PAC came from smaller weight where they age faster
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The two years age advantage Manny had was nullified by the 17 more fights that he had on his record. Those fights will age a boxer at a faster rate
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Its the truth.

There is a such thing called ring age. Certain styles burn out out sooner or faster than others. Some styles go through wars .

Floyds ring age was a lot younger than mannys.

...

Mannys ring age imo was about 40 years old when he fought floyd.
I could go on and on.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:01 AM #19
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flip flop all you want bruh. not sure why you would have to do that for lol. but you fvvcked up when you posted this --
Why are you ignoring where I clearly said in my original post - the FIRST TIME?

And why are you ignoring where I said in the quoted post that NSB SAYS - (as in, not me)?
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Isnít karma a fughin biatch
Horn beat Pac my fughin balls
If anybody wanna give him that victory , at least have the decency to mark it as 1-0 mma not boxing
I had it 7-5 for Horn. Not a dominant win but a clear one.

If you're saying you punished him for dirty tactics, isn't that the ref's job? A ref who BTW wasn't Australian?

Like Paulie once said, it's only dirty if the ref stops you from doing it, otherwise it's all about what you can get away with.

Thus why Derrick "Smoke" Gainer was able to beat Freddie Norwood at his own game and Francisco Lorenzo was able to get a win over Humberto Soto by just taking a knee.
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