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Old 05-19-2019, 08:11 PM #31
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He should have signed with Top Rank. Would have already been a unified champ at 126 or 130 headlining on ESPN.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:37 PM #32
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I want to see the fight, but let’s be honest it’s not gonna happen. Russell fights once a year, promotion wise he brings nothing to the table. Leo has other easier options that will generate him more money.

I hate the business side of boxing sometimes.
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Old 05-19-2019, 09:29 PM #33
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That's the thing. Gary could be the smartest ring iq fighter in history, but like every fighter, he has specific weaknesses. He has short non athletic legs and short arm's. That matches up bad against Loma. When Loma fought Salido, his weakness was fighting a guy willing to walk through fire to mug him, along with lacking the power to keep him off. Ring iq is great, Athleticism is Great, Speed is Great, Toughness is great, will is great, etc etc, but no boxer in history nor any boxer in the future will be perfect. Every fighter has a flaw that other certain fighters can exploit. Gary isn't one dimensional. He just ran into a guy with extraordinary athleticism that he physically could not deal with, even if his brain knew what he needed to do.
No boxer with a high ring IQ does the same things over and over with the same result. I believe it to be what Einstein calls insanity. Watch how a fighter like Loma and Bud adjust to their opponents. It takes them like a round or two to know what is not working and what is not going to work. To be fair, Loma won that fight against Salido based on adjustments. His adjustments was box and move because he realized Salido was holding him and banging to the body and balls. Bear in mind, this was also a green Loma.

And yes, he's one dimensional. He's been fighting TBA is entire career. All he does is flurry. This was also why Loma was able to figure him out and keep picking him apart at the end of his flurries.
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:03 PM #34
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No boxer with a high ring IQ does the same things over and over with the same result. I believe it to be what Einstein calls insanity. Watch how a fighter like Loma and Bud adjust to their opponents. It takes them like a round or two to know what is not working and what is not going to work. To be fair, Loma won that fight against Salido based on adjustments. His adjustments was box and move because he realized Salido was holding him and banging to the body and balls. Bear in mind, this was also a green Loma.

And yes, he's one dimensional. He's been fighting TBA is entire career. All he does is flurry. This was also why Loma was able to figure him out and keep picking him apart at the end of his flurries.



Sent you green. I still believe that athleticism is hard to beat even if you got all the skills in the world. Think Toney vs Jones Jr.. Toney is as gifted as you will find, but he had no answer for Roy's speed. Russell tried getting aggressive, he tried shoe shining with his flurries, as well as catch and shoot. He tried his hardest to get close enough to land, but his problem is he is close to being a dwarf. He is all torso with short arms and legs. I believe he knows what to do, but sometimes physical limitation will play a hand.
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:28 PM #35
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Hell yeah! Let's get Leo Santa Cruz cowardly ass in the ring. He's been ducking Russell for several years now. It's time for Gary Russell, Jr to whoop that ass and he knows it.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:09 AM #36
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Sent you green. I still believe that athleticism is hard to beat even if you got all the skills in the world. Think Toney vs Jones Jr.. Toney is as gifted as you will find, but he had no answer for Roy's speed. Russell tried getting aggressive, he tried shoe shining with his flurries, as well as catch and shoot. He tried his hardest to get close enough to land, but his problem is he is close to being a dwarf. He is all torso with short arms and legs. I believe he knows what to do, but sometimes physical limitation will play a hand.
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When two fighters with IQ collide, it becomes a chess match; and as you pointed out Jones vs Toney was one of those chess match. However, If you watch that fight between jones and toney, though Jones was the more athletic of the two, Toney was out of shape. Yes, all things being equal, athleticism will be advantageous.

A fighter with limited athleticism and high IQ is Canelo. Marquez is one, too. IQ beats athleticism, in that quick thinking fighters can trap you, or just forced you fight their fight, or just downright find ways to neutralize you.

A perfect example of IQ vs Athleticism is Pac vs Marquez. Pac had the strength, stamina and athleticism while Marquez had the IQ. All throughout their four fights, Pac kept getting caught with the same combo punch--the left to body followed with a short overhand right. He was hurt a couple times by that combo and even got knocked down early in 4th fight by the same punch.

I could see what Marquez was doing and he practiced it in Sparring. Pac is known for reaching in and getting caught out of position and his athleticism saved him many times. Pac, sometimes, due to impatience kinda leaps in instead of working behind a jab. So, Marquez would would feint take one step forward and two steps back and counter him. For the life of me, Pac couldn't figure this out and kept leaping in, realized Marquez is not there and getting countered with some vicious combos.

Pac's athleticism and stamina kept him in those fights until his ultimate doom by falling dead on into the trap that lead to his KO.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:33 AM #37
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Russell thinks he’s the s**t for beating someone years after Leo Santa Cruz did, lmao.

Santa Cruz ain’t nothing special but he’d absolutely buttf**k Russell.

Russell is on a strictly bum diet and only once a year, LMAO.

Santa Cruz needs to call this clown’s bluff.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:04 AM #38
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Dont get injured when the fight gets the green light
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:14 AM #39
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I got Gary Russell going to DAZN to fight farmer first before he gets Leo or Davis... specially Davis...
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:03 AM #40
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That can't be true, because Haymon would've blocked Jacobs vs. GGG on HBO, and blocked Jacobs vs. Canelo on DAZN! No way would Haymon allow Jacobs to sign with Hearn and go to another platform! LMAO!
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