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Trump 120 49.79%
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:07 PM #32381
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Donald Trump was and is a ****ty businessman, yet his entire selling argument for even being viable for the presidency was his supposed business acumen.

Choose an answer and stick with it.

If Trump is now the shipping businessman that everyone should've known about anyway, what was your rationale for throwing your support behind him, and still defending him at every turn?
How is he a bad businessman? He's still a billionaire. He took some losses, or wrote off losses to save on tax, or a combination of both.

Look at the job numbers and the economy. Yes his business acumen is definitely apparent.

Plenty of successful businessmen take losses at some point.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:43 PM #32382
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Trump would be richer than he is now if he had just invested all the money his dad gave him rather than having failed at so many business ventures.

Trump is an old man, so is Bernie Sanders. That's one of the reasons they are both rich. Money makes money and they have both had over 60 years for their money to make money.

Trump is arguably not a successful business man considering the massive advantages and wealth he had compared with many people. Many people could have achieved much better results and returns given his situation. The argument can certainly be made that he is a failed business man.

Regardless of his past failings, of which there are many.........the USA economy is overall doing well under him with low unemployment and solid economic growth. While I'm not happy with the debt situation he deserves some credit for that.

His business failings haven't caused him to tank the economy. He might even have learnt a little from them.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:50 PM #32383
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Trump would be richer than he is now if he had just invested all the money his dad gave him rather than having failed at so many business ventures.

Trump is an old man, so is Bernie Sanders. That's one of the reasons they are both rich. Money makes money and they have both had over 60 years for their money to make money.

Trump is arguably not a successful business man considering the massive advantages and wealth he had compared with many people. Many people could have achieved much better results and returns given his situation. The argument can certainly be made that he is a failed business man.

Regardless of his past failings, of which there are many.........the USA economy is overall doing well under him with low unemployment and solid economic growth. While I'm not happy with the debt situation he deserves some credit for that.

His business failings haven't caused him to tank the economy. He might even have learnt a little from them.
What?! Learn from his losses?

Oh no. Trump had his 0 taken. He's been exposed. Total hype job
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:54 PM #32384
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What?! Learn from his losses?

Oh no. Trump had his 0 taken. He's been exposed. Total hype job
Yup, he's not really a billionaire and US president. That's just what "they" want us to think. In reality, he's just a nobody bum.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:14 PM #32385
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Why did I vote for this guy! I mean he lost some money omg!
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:36 AM #32386
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Nice to see Donnie Liar Junior back in the frame. Lied about Trump Moscow, lied about Trump Tower meeting, lied about illegal campaign donations. Just an odious little lying rodent all in.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:53 AM #32387
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Nice to see Donnie Liar Junior back in the frame. Lied about Trump Moscow, lied about Trump Tower meeting, lied about illegal campaign donations. Just an odious little lying rodent all in.
Nah, youíre just a jealous insignificant rodent and also a partisan hater.
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Old 05-10-2019, 10:58 AM #32388
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Donald Trump was and is a ****ty businessman, yet his entire selling argument for even being viable for the presidency was his supposed business acumen.

Choose an answer and stick with it.

If Trump is now the shipping businessman that everyone should've known about anyway, what was your rationale for throwing your support behind him, and still defending him at every turn?
I agree with you that Trump was a ****ty businessman. His numerous failings speak for themselves despite all the advantages and financial backing that he had.

Trump was and is however a good marketer and used that to great effect during the 2016 campaign and is still using his marketing skills during his presidency.

"his entire selling argument for even being viable for the presidency was his supposed business acumen"

Not true, his main argument for the presidency was that he was NOT HILARY CLINTON which was a much more compelling argument and ultimately enough to get him across the line.
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How is he a bad businessman? He's still a billionaire. He took some losses, or wrote off losses to save on tax, or a combination of both.

Look at the job numbers and the economy. Yes his business acumen is definitely apparent.

Plenty of successful businessmen take losses at some point.
Id be a billionaire too if my daddy was one and gave me millions too. Nothing special.
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