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Old 04-24-2019, 03:29 PM #141
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Asking for 10mil is being greedy on Ortiz team part but Hearn offering less to get Ortiz on short notice then what miller was going make is dumb also..... counter offer 7.5-8 hopefully gets fight made
I dont see how he could turn down 8mil.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:30 PM #142
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Its a lowball offer IMO.

This way Hearn gets to say ' we made him a great offer, he turned us down...'
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:32 PM #143
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Anyone saying he’s greedy by asking for 10 doesn’t understand negotiations lol. Always ask for more than you want. Since it says Hearn is gonna counter offer it seems like that’s exactly what’s gonna happen
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:33 PM #144
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I thought Hearn said whoever fought Joshua would get Big Baby's 6.6 million dollar purse?

What happened to that?

If Ortiz turned that down, then I would agree that would be ducking.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:33 PM #145
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Wise words. Only flaw I see is Wilder not wanting to fight Ortiz again before cashing out (or not being able to because of Whyte).
From the word around the campfire it sounds like the Wilder moves are Ortiz & Kowancki this year so its not crazy to suggest Ortiz is 4 to 8 months from his call up (& Team Ortiz could KNOW they got the winner of Wilder vs Breazeale for all we know). And from my understanding Breazeale is some sorta ABC mando fight so that means Whyte isn't getting a mando shot til this time next year best case.

How set in stone is the above? Not very I'd assume as always in boxing, but that seems the blueprint & general layout at the moment & with Ortiz being arguably the 4th best guy in the division it seems a solid bet he'll get a title shot from someone at some point even if it doesn't transpire exactly like that.

The bigger factor to me is his age. How long can he hold out if he does get bypassed for awhile? I suppose only he really has any idea about that, but if I was on Team Ortiz I'd be sweating that lol.

And maybe a bigger factor is if Wilder signs a deal with DAZN post-Breazeale, as I suspect could happen, does Ortiz get next after Joshua vs Wilder or does he get pushed back in line a ways? Idk about all that.

But yea its a gamble & its always been a gamble for guys who've gotten to where all these guys have gotten.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:33 PM #146
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"Hearn is expected to make a counter-offer to Ortiz before finalizing a deal for Miller’s replacement."

So AJ vs Ortiz may not be totally dead after all!

"Multiple sources also have confirmed to BoxingScene.com that Al Haymon, who advises Wilder and Ortiz, has discussed with Ortiz’s team the possibility of a Wilder-Ortiz rematch taking place as soon as September."

But wait ... I thought Haymon and Finkel were planning a mega bucks offer to AJ to fight Wilder on Showtime PPV after Breazeale was out of the way?
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:34 PM #147
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Miller's deal was for $10 million total. That's including the two fights after Joshua. Miller isn't fighting on DAZN anymore so the $10 mil is there. Ortiz knows this that's why he's asking for Miller's $10 mil
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:35 PM #148
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So Ortiz went to London looking for AJ, he should have looked in AJs bedroom, but he's ducking now? Hearn is like a guy trying to buy his way out of a hold up. Ortiz simply said what any proper opportunist would say, give me all the money.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:36 PM #149
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And Collazo almost stopped Thurman. And Josesito Lopez made referee closely watch Thurman if he is still alive. So what.
The so what is that he's a bigger name now, which is exactly what I said. This is entertainment. If you've been watching this sport for anytime you should understand that name recognition matters quite a lot more than skills/ability.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:37 PM #150
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Ortiz is scared.
Deontay fans/ AJ haters have no more 'AJ is ducking ortiz hurr durr' rhetoric 😂🤣😂🤣
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