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Old 04-22-2019, 09:56 AM #71
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It sounds like you're hoping the Crawford/Khan numbers are bad so you can continue uses lame excuses on why the fight shouldn't happen! Bud got you Spence fanboys shook.
Some of you fan boys are straight up ******ed, terrible numbers hurt boxing dumba$$ which is why it shouldn’t of been on ppv and with the ending to that fight just gave boxing another black eye
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:00 AM #72
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Signing Tyson means a 50% chance of having an undisputed heavyweight champion on ESPN. Bob is gambling. Wilder won't make it pass AJ, Fury (who has already beaten him) and Whyte. So 12 months at most. AJ v Fury is a coin toss.
The fight was scored a draw no matter how you want to use revisionist history, Whyte is garbage so we not even going discuss him, fury has no belts, which only leads to a aj/wilder fight that matters since rematch was killed by arum... fury going fight 3 cans before he even considers fighting any of top guys again
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:05 AM #73
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Arum did not kill anything. You watch any Fox or Showtime broadcast and they don't even mention Crawford's name. In fact they act like he does not even exist.


Someone remind me when the PBC side have ever mentioned Loma or Crawford as potential opponents for Mikey/Tank or Spence. The only time they talk about them, it is to discredit them as possible opponents.


You guys are acting like Arum is making the fight not happen now. Arum is the only damn one talking about those potential fights and why they should happen. Ellerbe only talks as to why fights are not going to happen.
They mention Spence because they need him.

When PBC talks about Middleweights they mention Canelo because they need him for Charlo.

When PBC talks HW they mention Joshua & Fury

They all do it.

You don't see Top Rank mentioning Browne when they talk light heavies because they don't need him

Do you see the pattern?

They're clout chasing.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:09 AM #74
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I wonder how many years does Bob have left, he's old as fuk
Bob Arum sold his soul to the Devil long ago. He'll be around long after all of us have passed on.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:29 AM #75
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Boxing promoters are all scumbags, and Arum is as bad as any of them.

He also seems to think that people only care about money - because that's all he cares about. I reckon that's why he and Mikey Garcia have bad blood, and it might be the reason that Garcia/Loma doesn't happen.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:37 AM #76
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And fury over wilder? Calzaghe Hopkins? Maybe it's true, I'm not from the US but when I look at the wealth and fame of some of these black American sports stars who you can find in forbes rich list and some poxy google hit list ranking I wonder if that view you have is shared across the nation.

Maybe it is.. So if we had a white and a black boxer, equal in ability, America would automatically cheer for the white man because of his colour?
Those high paid athletes generate billions for outside parties that's why they get what they get. It's not necessarily because of love for them. Look at Lebron James. He was voted most hated athlete a number of times just because he left Cleveland by doing a TV special and donating the money generated to a boys and girls club. Its amazing the leaps gone through to hate him.

But yes, a black and white with equal ability will be loved unequally. I mean Rousey has nothing on Shields. Shields is from Flint, a city that HAS a nationally known poisonous water crisis. Dealt with sexual abuse, won 2 gold medals and is the best female boxer, maybe ever, but still she gets a fraction of the consideration of Rousey. She IS the American dream in the MeToo era but still no support.

Racism was all but invented in the US. This country inspired Hitler hating blacks is in the DNA so unless they find someone to hate more, like Max Baer, they will always hate the black one the most
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:40 AM #77
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Bruh that's bull. In the last two/three years we've had, in no particular order.

1) Spence vs Brook
2) Thurman vs Porter
3) Thurman vs Garcia
4) Porter vs Garcia
5) Porter vs Ugas

Other notable mentions are:

Porter vs Broner
Manny vs Broner
Manny vs Mathysse
Garcia vs Granados
Spence vs Garcia

Can't claim PBC fighters aint fighting each other.

They just aint fighting Spence. But it looks like Spence vs Porter about to happen and Manny vs Thurman too, both this year.
Green K coming your way!

Thing is, right now, if Haymon makes Spence/Porter, Thurman/Pac, Broner/Garcia, or anybody else....nobody's gonna talk about a Crawford/Spence fight.

Haymon has ALL of the pieces to make THE biggest fights at 140-154, and what does Arum have? He has fighters, but it's not THE guys that people wanna see.

His fighters are more so pushed and shoved down the public's throats, but Haymon's guy are pretty much selling themselves to the public.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:46 AM #78
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Promoters don't train fighters and this don't build Fighters. Besides, Bob arum has a match maker on the payroll. Further, think of the amount of times you have heard that a top-rank fighter is fighting someone that Bob didn't want them to fight.

Crawford and Loma are on the bottom half of the top 10 pound-for-pound when it comes to make his money. As good as they are why don't they sell?
I never said bob is giving more money to his fighters than Al.

I'm saying he's matching more and better his fighters.

Al has the best hype machine, having Spence on the P4P top 4 with such a record is one of the greatest achievement in term of boxing hype.
His PR and business is awesome.

but boxing is still a sport even if getting closer to a show.

His matchmaking is poor, most of his top fighters don't fight enough.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:50 AM #79
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I never said bob is giving more money to his fighters than Al.

I'm saying he's matching more and better his fighters.

Al has the best hype machine, having Spence on the P4P top 4 with such a record is one of the greatest achievement in term of boxing hype.
His PR and business is awesome.

but boxing is still a sport even if getting closer to a show.

His matchmaking is poor, most of his top fighters don't fight enough.
see this guys post before you talk dumb like that...

Bruh that's bull. In the last two/three years we've had, in no particular order.

1) Spence vs Brook
2) Thurman vs Porter
3) Thurman vs Garcia
4) Porter vs Garcia
5) Porter vs Ugas

Other notable mentions are:

Porter vs Broner
Manny vs Broner
Manny vs Mathysse
Garcia vs Granados
Spence vs Garcia

Can't claim PBC fighters aint fighting each other.

They just aint fighting Spence. But it looks like Spence vs Porter about to happen and Manny vs Thurman too, both this year.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:51 AM #80
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Is Ellerbe going to continue behaving like a sensitive twat in this business?
As Hearn said Arum can insult him all he wants, but it doesn't stop him from dealing with the Bobfather.
Ellerbe, Shirley, Espinoza, etc., don't seem to belong in this business.

Business and emotion don't go together.
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