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Old 03-17-2019, 01:05 AM #11
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This is such a dumb notion I love shutting down. Of course size plays a deciding factor, you can easily outbox a smaller foe if you choose as you have a size/reach advantage, power advantage, and have no fear of getting hurt. Really, anybody that has boxed before knows how much easier it is outboxing a smaller guy.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:06 AM #12
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Dont be stupid. The difference was the distance and size, period. Mikey won tonight the respect of everyone and Spence got exposed as a featherfisted fraud lol
Easter had the distance and height advantage by even more, what happened?
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:07 AM #13
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This is such a dumb notion I love shutting down. Of course size plays a deciding factor, you can easily outbox a smaller foe if you choose as you have a size/reach advantage, power advantage, and have no fear of getting hurt. Really, anybody that has boxed before knows how much easier it is outboxing a smaller guy.
Smaller guys outbox taller and longer reach guys all the time.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:07 AM #14
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You are wrong. Easter has longer arms than Spence. Why could Mikey get off against him and not Spence?
You don’t know boxing. Easter doesn’t have Spence power. You take reach and defense differently. You think Mikey taking risks with reach for Easter and Spence is the same? Cmon guy..
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Shades of mayweather/marquez. Spence was just a better all around fighter
That's exactly what I thought while watching it. Mikey is really good but he's also basic and not dynamic at any one thing. He couldn't get in range not only because of his height and reach but his slow feet.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:09 AM #16
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Smaller guys outbox taller and longer reach guys all the time.
Give examples at the elite level besides once in a generation type fighters like Mayweather, Duran, and Pacquiao?
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It was for Mikey in the sense that he clearly put on too much weight and was slow and lethargic. Which can happen to a smaller fighter when they move up. Robert Guerrero lost his speed when he moved from 135 to 147. You saw how it affected Mikey.

Spence, who was the bigger guy, was the one dictating the fight with his jab and moving. Mikey was plodding.
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of course size still has something to do with it. He didnt impose his size in the early rounds though.

But size goes along with power, reach, height and punch resistance.

If you want to compare it mathematically, you would need to compare spence's attributes with the average welterweight, use the relative differences and convert those to a lightweight sized version of spence.

He would be of course be smaller in size, shorter, less powerful and his resistance to punches would be weaker.
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He got off on Easter's height and reach.
As I told pilllowfists, how do you guys even illustrate Mikey’s reach and risk for Easter being the same as Spence? The power and risk is not even remotely the same. That’s not how fighters evaluate attempts. Easter is not Spence. Stop generalizing reach and P4P comparison. Spence is a superior boxer to Easter. Completely different footwork
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Mikey didn't know what to do to stop the jab. The jab killed him. It let Spence set up everything. I'm honestly shocked that he couldn't find a way to make an adjustment against the jab. He did look really basic in there. Too basic despite having the disadvantages. Expected a little more out of him.

Oh well, it was still a decent fight. We also had like 4 KO undercard fights
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