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Old 02-28-2019, 08:12 AM #30081
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MCC hates Trump so much, he celebrates no peace being achieved.

Sad!
It's all about team loyalty.

Nothing else matters in the eyes of a political party superfan.

My son shows this odd phenomenon on a daily basis.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:15 AM #30082
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The testing achieved its goal:

One-on-one talks with the US instead of that 3 party talks previously held

Elevation on the world stage by Trump making Un a legit leader

War games with S. Korea stopped

Allows them to continue building their nuclear weapons program unabated by the U.S.

Why would Un continue testing and threats when he's gotten what he wanted from the testing & threats?
Seriously, dude? You'd rather see missiles flying over Japan, than have a president sit down and talk with him? Are you saying Obama could have simply sat down with the guy ten years ago, and brought all the nonsense, the threats or death, and potentially deadly missile launches to an end?

And are you really saying, (and this I want you to think about for a minute), are you really saying you'd rather take a chance on these missile launches being for real, than to sit down and make sure they stop?

What would have happened that day that one of those launches wasn't just an attention seeking ploy, as you contend, and was a real launch? What then? But you'd rather let him keep lobbing rockets than have a discussion?!
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:19 AM #30083
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Team loyalty > everything else

I truly cant grasp how people can be this blindly loyal to lifer politicians of all people.

Its cultish behavior.
It makes no sense to me. This is like having a guy running around with a gun, firing shots. Cobra, rather than talk him out of it, would rather just say, Oh he's doing it for attention, leave him alone.

He'd rather light candles when Pookie gets hit by a stray...
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:34 AM #30084
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Nothing has stopped?

...except the launches.

Like I just said, you rather see missiles flying over Japan, than see Trump achieve peace
He has to revise history in order to maintain team loyalty.

Pathetic.

I thought my son might see the light with the job numbers of African Americans under Trump, as they are doing better under Trump than they've ever done before in terms of jobs.

But no, no dice.

He even puts his team loyalty over his own people and his racism.

That's a true blue superfan right there.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:36 AM #30085
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Seriously, dude? You'd rather see missiles flying over Japan, than have a president sit down and talk with him? Are you saying Obama could have simply sat down with the guy ten years ago, and brought all the nonsense, the threats or death, and potentially deadly missile launches to an end?

And are you really saying, (and this I want you to think about for a minute), are you really saying you'd rather take a chance on these missile launches being for real, than to sit down and make sure they stop?

What would have happened that day that one of those launches wasn't just an attention seeking ploy, as you contend, and was a real launch? What then? But you'd rather let him keep lobbing rockets than have a discussion?!
Explain to me why would Un need to continue testing and threats AFTER the testing & threats have achieved their goal?
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:37 AM #30086
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He has to revise history in order to maintain team loyalty.

Pathetic.

I thought my son might see the light with the job numbers of African Americans under Trump, as they are doing better under Trump than they've ever done before in terms of jobs.

But no, no dice.

He even puts his team loyalty over his own people and his racism.

That's a true blue superfan right there.
He's not even black anymore, just blue.

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Old 02-28-2019, 08:39 AM #30087
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Explain to me why would Un need to continue testing and threats AFTER the testing & threats have achieved their goal?
No. First, you explain how you'd rather have missiles flying than a discussion.

Answer that one.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:40 AM #30088
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Explain to me why would Un need to continue testing and threats AFTER the testing & threats have achieved their goal?
What goal????

Un gave up more American remains, and he did it for the first time without a ransom payment.

Un got the sanctions on him and his country ramped up.

Un released American hostages, and again was not paid a ransom.

Are you saying those were Un's goals?!?!
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:41 AM #30089
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Let's talk about a nuclear deal that actually worked. The JCPA. CChina, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States, and Germany have all said the deal worked. Trump, who doesn't read briefings & get into details, and Isreal, who wasn't a signatory to the deal & had no way of verifying the deal, said it was a bad deal.

Yet Trump can't come away with anything close to that.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:44 AM #30090
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No. First, you explain how you'd rather have missiles flying than a discussion.

Answer that one.
So they're allowed to continue to expand without any pressure from Trump. Denuclearization is the goal. Are we any closer to that today than we were before Trump capitulated?
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