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Old 09-13-2018, 07:24 AM #421
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That's a great point. And I think nearly everyone agrees that she should have handled this better.

But many also agree that the umpire could have handled it better as well.
handle what better? the ump has shown patience handling Serena's threat to him. He's been fair but firm. Read the full article because for me it's an honest non-biased opinion from a fellow respected tennis champ who also experienced similar predicament many times over
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handle what better? the ump has shown patience handling Serena's threat to him. He's been fair but firm. Read the full article because for me it's an honest non-biased opinion from a fellow respected tennis champ who also experienced similar predicament many times over
I just feel that he inserted himself a bit too much when it wasn't necessary. The coaching thing seemed like bs that he could have let go. The racket thing I completely understand. I'm even kinda ok with his arguing call, even though he could have let that go as well or just issued a soft warning. But again, I blame Serena more than I blame him, but he could have just let some of this go. Especially the coaching call which I think was bs.

Don't get me wrong. He was within his right for the code violations, but he could have issued soft-warnings. It was the finale. Just let them play.
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The media frenzy following this is laughable. Any time something doesn't go a woman's way, it has to be chalked up to "sexism". Same crap that happened recently when the Ghostbuster's remake and Ocean's 8 got bad reviews. In fact for Ocean's 8, someone went so far as to say said that white men shouldn't be allowed to review movies with a female or minority leading cast.
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I'm so tired of women bragging about what almighty powerful resilient badasses they are when they can't even handle criticism. So pathetic.

Seems like every week the far left gets just a little more batshit than they were the week before. I'm saying this as a liberal myself.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:08 AM #424
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I just feel that he inserted himself a bit too much when it wasn't necessary. The coaching thing seemed like bs that he could have let go. The racket thing I completely understand. I'm even kinda ok with his arguing call, even though he could have let that go as well or just issued a soft warning. But again, I blame Serena more than I blame him, but he could have just let some of this go. Especially the coaching call which I think was bs.

Don't get me wrong. He was within his right for the code violations, but he could have issued soft-warnings. It was the finale. Just let them play.
Yes he DID issue a warning for coaching (1st offense). Umpire is known as strict, just google his infractions towards other tennis players like Murray, Nadal etc. Whether Serena saw her coach or not is irrelevant. The coach was caught red-handed and was given a soft warning as 1st offense.
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I just feel that he inserted himself a bit too much when it wasn't necessary. The coaching thing seemed like bs that he could have let go. The racket thing I completely understand. I'm even kinda ok with his arguing call, even though he could have let that go as well or just issued a soft warning. But again, I blame Serena more than I blame him, but he could have just let some of this go. Especially the coaching call which I think was bs.

Don't get me wrong. He was within his right for the code violations, but he could have issued soft-warnings. It was the finale. Just let them play.
Umpire did excellent job, didn't let her intimidate him and gave her warning before deducting a point. No one is bigger than sport itself.
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Yes he DID issue a warning for coaching (1st offense). Umpire is known as strict, just google his infractions towards other tennis players like Murray, Nadal etc. Whether Serena saw her coach or not is irrelevant. The coach was caught red-handed and was given a soft warning as 1st offense.
By soft warning, I was referring to what the other player said was basically a "cut it out" type of deal. Not an official code violation. That's what I'm trying to say.

But again, yea, I know he has been strict with rules, which is why he has gotten into major conflict with others. He needs to relax himself, in my humble opinion.
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By soft warning, I was referring to what the other player said was basically a "cut it out" type of deal. Not an official code violation. That's what I'm trying to say.

But again, yea, I know he has been strict with rules, which is why he has gotten into major conflict with others. He needs to relax himself, in my humble opinion.
Let me remind you that the verbal abuse comes off as 3rd offense (game penalty) after the coaching (soft warning) and racket abuse. She should've known better to not let it go out of hand

i don't see the point of having a reputation as a strict umpire then expecting him to "soften" towards others. Serena's the one who should relax and just STFU and play. Can't believe that this immature outburst is from the supposed female GOAt. And her attitude is not without precedent.
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The media frenzy following this is laughable. Any time something doesn't go a woman's way, it has to be chalked up to "sexism". Same crap that happened recently when the Ghostbuster's remake and Ocean's 8 got bad reviews. In fact for Ocean's 8, someone went so far as to say said that white men shouldn't be allowed to review movies with a female or minority leading cast.
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I'm so tired of women bragging about what almighty powerful resilient badasses they are when they can't even handle criticism. So pathetic.

Seems like every week the far left gets just a little more batshit than they were the week before. I'm saying this as a liberal myself.
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calling someone a thief warrants a Game Penalty? lol, sometimes umpires should use their discretion and common sense and factor in the magnitude of the event.

at least say "if you carry on then i am gonna have to give you a Game Penalty".

we might as well just have robots as umpires if the umpire is not permitted to use his discretion.

tennis is regulated like a joke anyway lol, a female tennis player was penalised for taking her top off after realising it was on wrong way around, even though there was clothing underneath, meanwhile the male tennis players go shirtless for large periods of time.
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Let me remind you that the verbal abuse comes off as 3rd offense (game penalty) after the coaching (soft warning) and racket abuse. She should've known better to not let it go out of hand
I agree that she should have known better.

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i don't see the point of having a reputation as a strict umpire then expecting him to "soften" towards others. Serena's the one who should relax and just STFU and play. Can't believe that this immature outburst is from the supposed female GOAt. And her attitude is not without precedent.
I wasn't speaking on his reputation as I had no idea who the hell he was before this incident. But here's the thing....I should still not know who the hell he is. Perhaps you can argue that it's Serena's fault that we know who he is, but I think he takes at least a bit of the blame for that as well.

The coaching accusation and penalty was garbage. I'm not going to change my mind about that.
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