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Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View PostYou keep blathering on about fantasy fights.
If you need two guys to fight to fight in every situation because you cannot figure out who the better fighter we do not have much to talk about.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postyou have no idea what I would say, dont presuppose me, that just shows your argument is floundering if you need to put word in my mouth.
I agree that hes not finished yet, he can as yet underline his elite status or more.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postan elite is notch above world, who can beat all but other elite.
world class means you can contend, from failed contenders at the fringe to fulfilled ones with the titles at the top, who are often elites themselves.
no theyw ere more than elite, those were victories over HoF/ATG.
again thats a notch above elite. Thats the next tier. Lennox and tyson were ATG/HOF
I agree World Class includes elites. But not all World Class fighters are elite.
On top of that because you beat a ATG/HOF that doesn't mean you were fighting them when they were at an elite level.Last edited by Diego Rodriguez; 06-22-2018, 04:15 PM.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Posti cant see it because I am not prepared to call wins over non events. Fiction isnt my thing.
You need two individuals (or teams) to play each other to form an opinion on who you think is better. I do not.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View PostThe fact that you can say that when you know Sergio reigned longer than GGG with better wins says it all about your bias.
I would have loved to see a fight between prime Martinez vs. Golovkin. It would have been nice had they met by no later than 2012.
I also said the old Cotto that faced Canelo IMO wouldn't have stood much of a chance against Golovkin.
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Originally posted by Hewito View PostIt is not like I am predicting the future, besides, just because you have a thesaurus
does not make your argument any better. GGG is not done. He has a win against Canelo(not even mexicans think Canelo won) now, if GGG wins clearly against Canelo, his elite status will be even stronger, since Canelo is elite.
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Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View PostMaybe you didn't understand. I did not say prime Sergio. I said the Martinez that faced Cotto. That was not a prime Martinez. .
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Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View PostNo one is asking you to do that. Not sure why you are caught up on that.
You need two individuals (or teams) to play each other to form an opinion on who you think is better. I do not.
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Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View PostIt is all subjective. My definition of elite is straight out of the dictionary - is a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities. There is nothing higher than elite.
I agree World Class includes elites. But not all World Class fighters are elite.
On top of that because you beat a ATG/HOF that doesn't mean you were fighting them when they were at an elite level.
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