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Old 07-18-2019, 05:03 PM #11
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Terence crawford has better ratings than spence and also gets many more viewers on youtube. Mikey garcia is almost youtube famous, all his interviews get numerous views, got plenty of 1mils+ sparring footage too. Spence is a nobody, he’s growing but still relatively unknown. They are throwing his name out there with canelo now, thurman and pacquiao, if he can show he’s the goods he’ll start to really pick up traction.

But for the garcia fight? No. Mikey Garcia fights have had much more energy than spence fights and he doubled that energy with the task he put infront of him.

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Old 07-18-2019, 05:03 PM #12
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You're reaching, bro. You're comparing old Mikey fights when Mikey was unknown to Spence's most recent fights. The Lopez fight was in 2013. Two fights before that Mikey fought in Mexico against a guy with a 36-15 record. Mikey was barely know. And Spence had the marketing support of the Cowboys - not to mention that Spence is from Dallas - when he sold out the Star.


I call bull***** again. You're comparing Spence's ratings on NBC to Mikey's ratings on Showtime. 100 million homes to 25 million homes. You can't be that stupid. Take out the NBC numbers and Mikey and Spence did the same ratings.



You can't possibly be this dumb. Brook vs. Spence was a PPV in BROOK'S market, the UK. In Spence's home market, the fight wasn't on PPV, and it averaged only about 300K viewers, though it was on the afternoon.

Most importantly, TV ratings and ticket sales don't always correlate with PPV drawing power. Crawford gets excellent TV ratings and sells tickets well, but his PPVs have bombed...hasn't broken 200K buys in his 2 PPVs combined.

Ward and Kovalev did great TV ratings but their 2 PPVs bombed.

Anyone who understands boxing PPVs knows that the Mexican and Mexican-American fans are the most consistent and loyal PPV buyers. That's why Kovalev-Ward and the Crawford PPVs tanked.
Mikey was very well known when he fought Sergey and still only sold 7,800 tickets in San Antonio. San Antonio has a bigger fight market than Dallas btw. Mikey had a had a head start to cultivate a strong fan base in Texas and get a sell out a crowd yet he couldn’t do it. Errol Spence sold out the crowd in a practice facility holding 12,600 people in Frisco, Texas.

About the TV ratings, Errol Spence’s showtime TV ratings are BETTER than Mikey’s, when it comes to average or peak Errol’s ratings surpassed Mikey’s. The only time Mikey had better viewership than Errol was when he fought Broner and we all know Broner brought in all the views, NOT Mikey.

Errol Spence was on PPV way before Mikey, that was the point when I brought up Spence vs Brook, Mikey was never on any PPV in ANY market.

Anyone with a brain knows that Mexican-Americans do not drive PPV buys. Pacquiao vs Broner are not Mexican yet they still had 400k buys, Wilder vs Fury are not Mexican yet they still had 330k buys, Mayweather vs McGregor are not Mexican yet they still had 4,000,000 buys.

Mikey’s Garcia doesn’t get credit for the ticket sales or PPV buys. His ticket sale numbers are trash and his viewership numbers are worse than Errol’s. Errol was the one who sold the tickets and is responsible for those 360k PPV buys.
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Old 07-18-2019, 05:09 PM #13
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Who's saying it was the main reason?

I definitely Mikey & his popularity & knownness played into it. It was a good fight (on paper). People are dying to watch top guys fight so they show up.

I do tend to doubt 3 played much of a part cuz to most US fans a UK PPV don't count or barely counts either so while Spence had fooled around both were US PPV virgins technically.
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Terence crawford has better ratings than spence and also gets many more viewers on youtube. Mikey garcia is almost youtube famous, all his interviews get numerous views, got plenty of 1mils+ sparring footage too. Spence is a nobody, he’s growing but still relatively unknown. They are throwing his name out there with canelo now, thurman and pacquiao, if he can show he’s the goods he’ll start to really pick up traction.

But for the garcia fight? No. Mikey Garcia fights have had much more energy than spence fights and he doubled that energy with the task he put infront of him.
False, false and false.

Errol Spence has the better tickets sales/crowds, better TV ratings, larger social media following and has more fans overall.

Errol Spence highest viewed YouTube videos were removed because Doom Boxing Channel and Boxing Legends TV got hit with a bunch of copyright claims.

The only reason why Mikey Garcia has more popular videos is because esnews constantly uploads videos about him. No YouTubee is following Spence around, increasing his likelihood of going viral. Try again.
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Old 07-18-2019, 05:11 PM #15
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Twitter and Instagram represent only a tiny fraction of the viewing audience and an even smaller part of the Mexican and Mexican-American audience.

Crawford has 460K Instagram followers and can't sell a PPV to save his life.
Garcia vs Postol and Garcia vs Khan would also do bad PPV numbers.

However, I’m sure Crawford vs Spence does much better buys than Garcia vs Spence. That a lone would debunk the myth that Mexicans are the driving force to PPV buys.
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False, false and false.

Errol Spence has the better tickets sales/crowds, better TV ratings, larger social media following and has more fans overall.

Errol Spence highest viewed YouTube videos were removed because Doom Boxing Channel and Boxing Legends TV got hit with a bunch of copyright claims.

The only reason why Mikey Garcia has more popular videos is because esnews constantly uploads videos about him. No YouTubee is following Spence around, increasing his likelihood of going viral. Try again.
Don’t fall for the bundu ratings.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=813455

And mikey having esnews following him around is irrelevant and the more attention which = more views just proves he’s bigger than spence, just checked, he’s got atleast 2 sparring videos at 3mill+
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Old 07-18-2019, 05:25 PM #17
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Don’t fall for the bundu ratings.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=813455

And mikey having esnews following him around is irrelevant and the more attention which = more views just proves he’s bigger than spence, just checked, he’s got atleast 2 sparring videos at 3mill+
LOL. You’re so delusional man.

ESNEWS constantly following Mikey Garcia around and uploading videos about him = YouTube algorithm making one of the videos go viral by recommending it a bunch

If Spence allowed a Youtuber with hundreds of thousands of subscribers into his gym, getting 10-20 videos of him uploaded weekly then he would go viral as well due to the algorithm.

There are a bunch of videos ESNEWS uploaded of Mikey Garcia that didn’t even crack the 1,000 views mark.

If you go on google trends and put Errol Spence’ and Mikey Garcia’s name then change the settings to “YouTube Search”, the graph will show that Errol Spence’s name is more searched than Mikey’s especially in the last 90 days.

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Old 07-18-2019, 05:36 PM #18
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So it's spence's fault when the Porter fight bombs on PPV.
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Texas comes out to Support Texas! Same with the support that Crawford gets from Nebraska and the support that Jamal James get in Minnesota, Tank Davis in Maryland. Of course Mikey was the perfect Dance Partner absolutely, what is wrong with having the right Dance Partner and why do fans try to discredit guys for doing well with the right dance partner
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I was at this fight. Dope night

All sides deserve props. It was heavily promoted also with a intriguing match up of 2 undefeated fighters in their prime. One moving up to “Dare to be great”. Other finally had an opponent that would test is IQ and make him show more than he had before

Both communities showed up to support along with real fight fans.

Without Mikey. That night. Spence would have been fighting in downtown Dallas at the American Airlines Center tho
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