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Old 12-01-2020, 01:37 PM #51
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You have to understand, it wouldn't have mattered if Trump cured cancer and gave everyone a million dollars...he was hated the day he questioned Obama's birth certificate. Prior to that day, everyone loved him, including Oprah, the Clintons and a lot of the other elites who hate him now. Which goes to show what a sacred cow Obama was, you couldn't criticize that man without being labeled a racist. That's how dangerous the media has become.

From a policy perspective no one can identify how Trump made their lives worse or made them suffer, outside of hurt feelings. Meanwhile, I can list half a dozen Obama and Clinton policies that impacted me and much of the working class. Biden/Harris will be a disaster.
But you can't compare Trump the rich guy to Trump the politician.

And I don't think it had to with Obama. He pissed alot of people off.u forgetting woman had a damn March against him.

And btw nobody told Trump to keep In Obama name in his mouth and push that birth certificate conspiracy which will offend people obviously.

It's like y'all turn off y'all brains to ignore anything negative he does. U don't have to admit anything.

But quit acting like people don't have legit reasons to dislike or not support him.

He not perfect at all.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:39 PM #52
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But you can't compare Trump the rich guy to Trump the politician.

And I don't think it had to with Obama. He pissed alot of people off.u forgetting woman had a damn March against him.

And btw nobody told Trump to keep In Obama name in his mouth and push that birth certificate conspiracy which will offend people obviously.

It's like y'all turn off y'all brains to ignore anything negative he does. U don't have to admit anything.

But quit acting like people don't have legit reasons to dislike or not support him.

He not perfect at all.
The women's march against him was an agenda from a higher order. It wasn't some grass roots movement that grew legs and rallied against him. It was political activism, same as we've seen since he took office with #MeToo...the party that believes all woman...unless your name is Joe Biden and you have seven women who have spoke out against you for sexual assault. Suddenly #MeToo got real quiet since Biden's been on the scene.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:52 PM #53
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The women's march against him was an agenda from a higher order. It wasn't some grass roots movement that grew legs and rallied against him. It was political activism, same as we've seen since he took office with #MeToo...the party that believes all woman...unless your name is Joe Biden and you have seven women who have spoke out against you for sexual assault. Suddenly #MeToo got real quiet since Biden's been on the scene.
You don't think he offended woman? Just agenda?

Don't Trump have pending lawsuits also regarding woman?

If course their gonna be groups taking advantage of things

Same as BLM.... It started off something then became another. Like Me too.

But again Trump is not perfect he is very polarizing. And by nature passing policies us polarizing, why some people refuse to get into politics. You make a group happy u piss off another group .
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Fox was reporting what Rudy had alleged was on the laptop. They backed off the story once they saw Biden was trending as the winner. They don't want to burn bridges. Regardless, their strategy is a losing on. There is not way to spin a 32% drop in ratings in your favor. You can't assume that the people tuning out are all tin foil hat wearers. This is exactly the type of gaslighting the media uses to discredit alternative news sources like OAN, Newsmax, and even social media outlets like Parler. Detractors were quick to jump on and accuse the APP of being an echo chamber for white supremacy, their latest go-to phrase for anyone who doesn't tow the line.
Its just weird because you are mad at them for not doing exactly what you want them to do.

Which is kind of my point.

News sources should not be there to tell you what you want to hear.

Are those other news sources telling you the facts or are they telling you what you want to hear?
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You don't think he offended woman? Just agenda?

Don't Trump have pending lawsuits also regarding woman?

If course their gonna be groups taking advantage of things

Same as BLM.... It started off something then became another. Like Me too.

But again Trump is not perfect he is very polarizing. And by nature passing policies us polarizing, why some people refuse to get into politics. You make a group happy u piss off another group .
Who in this day doesn't offend women? You telling Bill and Hillary didn't offend women with all the shyt he did and she tolerated? She went after his accusers and tried to pin the blame on them for his sexual assaults. Somehow millions of women who hate Trump ignored that convenient fact. Now we have Biden who gets a pass for sexually harassing and assaulting at least seven women who have come forward in recent years. Nothing from the media.

People will always cherry pick what they find offensive depending on which side of the fence they are on. Which is my point--team loyalty and partisan politics overrides common sense and critical thinking. If you watch most media networks they'd have you believe that all Trump supporters are uneducated, toothless hicks living below the poverty line eating road kill. All racists and "bitter clingers with their bibles and guns", despite the fact that Trump got 20% of black vote and over 30% of Latino vote. Or that many highly educated people voted for him as well. Not to mention working class and law enforcement endorsements.
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Its just weird because you are mad at them for not doing exactly what you want them to do.

Which is kind of my point.

News sources should not be there to tell you what you want to hear.

Are those other news sources telling you the facts or are they telling you what you want to hear?
Yet, you'll tune in to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WAPO, NPR, etc., which is doing just that--telling you what you want to hear.

I only liked a few FOX commentators. Most are moderately right, a few moreso. But FOX is beholden to sponsors and we all know these sponsors lean left and are part of the PC culture. I'm sure there is pressure from sponsors who threaten to pull out that FOX needs to pull further left if they want any more of that revenue. Tucker lost several sponsors despite his ratings.
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Voter Fraud when 6 states all stop counting at the same time while Trump is way ahead and than poof Biden is ahead in the morning only a dummy will believe no fraud was committed
none of the states stop counting the only person who want them to stop counting was trump

and of course Biden pulled ahead because most of the votes that still had to be count was large city with heavy democratic areas with mail in votes which had to be counted on election day
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none of the states stop counting the only person who want them to stop counting was trump

and of course Biden pulled ahead because most of the votes that still had to be count was large city with heavy democratic areas with mail in votes which had to be counted on election day
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Who in this day doesn't offend women? You telling Bill and Hillary didn't offend women with all the shyt he did and she tolerated? She went after his accusers and tried to pin the blame on them for his sexual assaults. Somehow millions of women who hate Trump ignored that convenient fact. Now we have Biden who gets a pass for sexually harassing and assaulting at least seven women who have come forward in recent years. Nothing from the media.

People will always cherry pick what they find offensive depending on which side of the fence they are on. Which is my point--team loyalty and partisan politics overrides common sense and critical thinking. If you watch most media networks they'd have you believe that all Trump supporters are uneducated, toothless hicks living below the poverty line eating road kill. All racists and "bitter clingers with their bibles and guns", despite the fact that Trump got 20% of black vote and over 30% of Latino vote. Or that many highly educated people voted for him as well. Not to mention working class and law enforcement endorsements.
Bruhhh...... All I'm saying is why can't u accept people may dislike him and have their reasons?

The same way Trump supporters come in different sexes, colors, etc.

No different than the people who don't support him.

Many highly intelligent people refuse to support him also.

So why assume these group of different people only dislike him cuz of the media.... And not by them disagreeing with something Trump did etc.

U get what I mean now? U can't have it both ways
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Yet, you'll tune in to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WAPO, NPR, etc., which is doing just that--telling you what you want to hear.

I only liked a few FOX commentators. Most are moderately right, a few moreso. But FOX is beholden to sponsors and we all know these sponsors lean left and are part of the PC culture. I'm sure there is pressure from sponsors who threaten to pull out that FOX needs to pull further left if they want any more of that revenue. Tucker lost several sponsors despite his ratings.
I dont watch any of those.

Do you ever see me advocate for any of them here?

Sorry you got the wrong guy.

And you dodged my question.
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