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  • #21
    i dont agree with a few odd things but overallits a pretty credible list

    good work, its not easy to put these things together

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    • #22
      List's were always be questioned as everyone has there own views and thoughts on who should be were. I have my douts on this list, but like I say it is your list.

      Interesting not to see George Dixon, Pascual Perez, Kid Chocolate, Battling Nelson, Abe Attell, Johnny Dundee, Dick Tiger, Tommy Ryan, and a few others not on there. But I can imagine it to be hard to draw up a top 50 fighters list, it would take me alot of time and research.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by asero831 View Post
        do you know how hard is it for a flyweight/bantamweight champ to do well past 126...pac didnt only do well, he had success past 126
        He's never actually been smaller than anyone though apart from Oscar.

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        • #24
          Of course, I don't agree with every position on the list.

          But honestly, it's one of the better top 50's I can ever recall seeing.

          I wouldn't place Pacquiao ahead of guys like Chavez, Jones, and Hopkins.

          But overall the list is ace.

          Kudos.

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          • #25
            Many questionable decisions on this list but as with all lists, it's a matter of opinion. Most credible historians can barely agree on the top-10 Heavyweights let alone the top-50 of anyweight.

            It's good to see Charles getting some much deserved props. He's such an underrated fighter and only began to get the props he truly deserves in recent years. He was a fine all-round fighter and I regard him as my number one all time LHW.

            One thing that bugs me is seeing Manny Pacquiao so high. Whilst he is a great fighter he hasn't done enough to justify being ranked ahead of many on that list. Dempsey, Lewis, Hearns, Tunney, Arguello, Hopkins and Burley are a selection of the names I feel definitely need to be ranked above Pacquiao. Their are many noticeable ommisions from your list as well including Harry Wills, who is among the greatest never to be crowned champion. Jeanette is another noticeable ommision from your list. I'd be willing to go out and say that even Basilio deserves a spot on the list ahead of some of the fighters mentioned.

            The list is pretty good other then what was mentioned above but it's all a matter of opinion.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by talip bin osman View Post
              ok... hearns officially lost to those 2 right?

              what were his biggest wins?

              roberto duran was a great win, but... duran was greatly outsized in that fight... manos de piedra was fighting outside his prime too...

              juan roldan & pipino cuevas... was roldan or cuevas in anyway greater compared to barrera or morales? even JMM?

              hearns' biggest wins outside those i mentioned were against benitez, virgil hill & michael olajide...

              nothing much (except duran) compared to MP's wins...
              he got a draw with leonard in the second fight but everyone knows hearns won, leonard even admitted it.

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              • #27
                I think its better to not include active fighters.


                Number 23 for Manny Pacquiao might be an injustice when he's done with his career.

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                • #28
                  I just don't agree Manny at 23... well it's up to the guys who makes the list right?

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                  • #29
                    if manny beat floyd, then cotto or sugar shane, would you guys say he deserved a high spot like this?

                    i probably would, maybe not as high as 23 though

                    good list overall

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by asero831 View Post
                      Accomplishment, Overall Ability and Timeliness



                      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                      2. Henry Armstrong
                      3. Muhammad Ali
                      4. Sam Langford
                      5. Harry Greb
                      6. Joe Louis
                      7. Ezzard Charles
                      8. Willie Pep
                      9. Roberto Duran
                      10. Archie Moore

                      11. Benny Leonard
                      12. Ray Leonard
                      13. Pernell Whitaker
                      14. Bob Fitzsimmons
                      15. Joe Gans
                      16. Carlos Monzon
                      17. Barney Ross
                      18. Jack Johnson
                      19. Marvin Hagler
                      20. Jimmy Wilde

                      21. Mickey Walker
                      22. Sandy Saddler
                      23. Manny Pacquiao
                      24. Julio Cesar Chavez
                      25. Alexis Arguello
                      26. Rocky Marciano
                      27. Gene Tunney
                      28. Roy Jones Jr
                      29. Barbados Joe Walcott
                      30. Bernard Hopkins

                      31. Lennox Lewis
                      32. Evander Holyfield
                      33. Charley Burley
                      34. Eder Jofre
                      35. Tony Canzoneri
                      36. Emile Griffith
                      37. Jack Dempsey
                      38. Salvador Sanchez
                      39. Kid Gavilan
                      40. Thomas Hearns

                      41. Ike Williams
                      42. Larry Holmes
                      43. Floyd Mayweather Jr
                      44. Stanley Ketchel
                      45. Jimmy McLarnin
                      46. Tommy Loughran
                      47. Michael Spinks
                      48. Ruben Olivares
                      49. Jose Napoles
                      50. Fighting Harada
                      Thankyou for taking the time and posting.
                      Good list, obviously would change the order a touch myself but thats personal opinion.
                      Re ommisions again its a personal thing, I haven't done my 50 so might have a couple of different names.
                      Do think I might find a place for Bob Foster in mine somewhere.

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