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    So first USADA was a joke and VADA was the top and the best because Floyd was using them..now that UKAD had found Whyte dirty now VADA is trash???? I am lost here can someone help me out????

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    Hearn said UKAD was on of the most stringent doping testing agencies in the world, which could very well be true with recent developments.

    Makes you wonder how good VADA is at detecting doppers.

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    • #3
      usada wasn't a joke just because floyd used them. terrible framing. they are a joke because they prevented manny from getting a legal procedure done while at the same time they watched floyd do an illegal one right in front of them, then to top it off the gave him a tue because he said he had a "physical ailment" is it really that easy to get around the rules? simply saying you have a vague ailment. and how is usada doing right now in boxing?

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      • #4
        USADA let Floyd take hours to give a pee sample. HOURS and it was brown.
        THey also let Floyd take IV's after the weigh-in.
        What happened with Erik Morales ?
        Floyd never used VADA. He paid USADA some 4 times the usual price according to Max Kellerman.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by OCPancho View Post
          USADA let Floyd take hours to give a pee sample. HOURS and it was brown.
          THey also let Floyd take IV's after the weigh-in.
          What happened with Erik Morales ?
          Floyd never used VADA. He paid USADA some 4 times the usual price according to Max Kellerman.
          And yet here we are in 2019 and....

          VADA 365 program cant afford to test the fighters at least once a year.

          Cant afford to conduct random testing overseas.

          And worst of all can only afford test fighters "2 or 3" times during training camp.


          4x though.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
            And yet here we are in 2019 and....

            VADA 365 program cant afford to test the fighters at least once a year.

            Cant afford to conduct random testing overseas.

            And worst of all can only afford test fighters "2 or 3" times during training camp.


            4x though.
            Makes you wonder how Canelo got caught. lol
            He must some kind of stupid.

            Maybe they should all give hair samples.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OCPancho View Post
              Makes you wonder how Canelo got caught. lol
              He must some kind of stupid.

              Maybe they should all give hair samples.
              Well Whyte has been told not to cut his hair. So am guessing they would be taking his hair samples as part of the investigation.

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              • #8
                My understanding is:

                WADA = global anti doping organisation.
                UKAD/USADA/ASADA/etc = the official anti doping orgs of various countries (UK/US/Australia/etc), government funded, recognised by WADA & must follow their procedures & protocols.
                VADA = a private company, which takes their lead on prohibited substances from the WADA list but not accredited or recognised by WADA.

                In Australia any sport which receives any funding from the gov must signup to ASADA, sounds similar in the UK, in that any fighter licensed by BBBoC has to be signed up to UKAD for testing.

                In the US there is no mandatory anti doping testing, which is probably in part why sanctioning bodies use VADA. Its also how Miller can get 6mths after swallowing a pharmacy.

                My understanding is VADA doesn't actually perform testing, they send to WADA accredited labs, so the actual testing and prohibited list is probably the same or very similar.

                Considering the amount of money in boxing in the US it is a mystery why USADA isn't mandated for professional boxing, I believe it stems back to the promoters claiming its not a sport but a business, where as US amateur boxing is signed up to USADA, otherwise they couldn't compete in the Olympics.

                Thats my understanding anyway.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  usada wasn't a joke just because floyd used them. terrible framing. they are a joke because they prevented manny from getting a legal procedure done while at the same time they watched floyd do an illegal one right in front of them, then to top it off the gave him a tue because he said he had a "physical ailment" is it really that easy to get around the rules? simply saying you have a vague ailment. and how is usada doing right now in boxing?

                  Simplified, factual post!

                  It’s got little to do with Floyd. The bigger picture is about USADA's murky and questionable practices.

                  WADA is on top all of doping agencies...they are like the government for doping agencies. What USADA was allowing was prohibited under WADA.

                  And then due to their incompetence, denying Pac anti inflammatory when the fight is worth $$100’s of $$millions is absolutely rookie form.

                  https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/9/1...ht-boxing-news


                  Here Larry, please read this one in it’s entirety...

                  https://www.sbnation.com/longform/20...ng-trust-usada

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rock&Roll View Post
                    Simplified, factual post!

                    It’s got little to do with Floyd. The bigger picture is about USADA's murky and questionable practices.

                    WADA is on top all of doping agencies...they are like the government for doping agencies. What USADA was allowing was prohibited under WADA.

                    And then due to their incompetence, denying Pac anti inflammatory when the fight is worth $$100’s of $$millions is absolutely rookie form.

                    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/9/1...ht-boxing-news


                    Here Larry, please read this one in it’s entirety...

                    https://www.sbnation.com/longform/20...ng-trust-usada
                    USADA licking the hands that feed them .

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