Abolish ICE Movement

[LADIV]

It's laughable- a desperate last-straw attempt by the democrats to keep illegal voters coming into the country-nothing more and nothing less.

you will.always be just that..a one trick pony...illegals cant vote...

[Santa_]

I stand with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez on this issue.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

you will.always be just that..a one trick pony...illegals cant vote...

Sure....

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[Build That Wall]

I stand with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez on this issue.

Commie slut

[BostonGuy]

I say I am ecstatic that some Dems would run on abolishing ICE and having open borders. Although no Dem politician has run on abolishing the 2nd Amendment in public yet, I hope they also push for that. Along with the socialist movement gaining some considerable steam in some heavily Dem districts. This is all great news for a non-liberal.

How is this great news? An open borders democratic socialist just won a congressional primary in NY. How is this a good thing?

[BostonGuy]

Commie slut

Attack and debate her policies and ideas, not her gender.

[Fists_of_Fury]

I say illegals can go to hell and back to the ****holes they came from. Build a wall. Deport all illegals. Abolish the bull**** where their kids get citizenship from being born here. Send all illegals deported to whatever last country they came and charge them for the process. Any company caught using illegal labor should be fined very heavily for the 1st offense and their business seized after a 2nd offense. Make new harsher laws for border jumpers so that they stop coming here illegally like a heavy prison sentence with manual labor like a chain gang. All new citizens through the legal means should be ineligible for all welfare programs. Lets stop giving incentives to come leech. I.C.E. needs strengthened and our immigration laws upheld. Arrest all those interfering with I.C.E. and charge them with a serious felony.

[BoxingTech718]

As much as I feel sorry for these people important decisions can’t be made with emotions and feelings.

They must be made with facts, logic, and pragmatism.

It isn’t feasible for this country to absorb all of the refugees from Mexico and
Latin America.

So what I think is that the people of these nations need to rise up and take their own fates in their own hands.

[Lomasexual]

Immigration is such a complex issue. On the one hand, I firmly believe that a country should be able to determine who comes into their space. All cultures are not equal, and allowing certain people in is to the detriment of a country.

On the other hand, I do believe in both responsibility and humanitarianism. For example, the US is responsible for a lot of Mexico's problems via the incomprehensibly evil and stupid 'war on drugs'.
If you allow powerful wowsers in your own country to turn areas of other countries into shitholes, then basic decency says you have to look after the victims of your own stupidity - as well as the principle of taking responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

The US has been the biggest player on the world stage for quite a while, and has been more than happy to throw its weight around. It has been less than perfect in caring about the effects this has on innocents and in truly taking responsibility.

I think that the solution is twofold. You can't have one of these without the other, not realistically or ethically:
1) Absolute control over the borders.
2) Do absolutely nothing to make life for people outside the borders worse.

The problem is that most (not all) of the people who are all for 1) are rabidly opposed to 2).

[GhostofDempsey]

Immigration is such a complex issue. On the one hand, I firmly believe that a country should be able to determine who comes into their space. All cultures are not equal, and allowing certain people in is to the detriment of a country.

On the other hand, I do believe in both responsibility and humanitarianism. For example, the US is responsible for a lot of Mexico's problems via the incomprehensibly evil and stupid 'war on drugs'.
If you allow powerful wowsers in your own country to turn areas of other countries into shitholes, then basic decency says you have to look after the victims of your own stupidity - as well as the principle of taking responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

The US has been the biggest player on the world stage for quite a while, and has been more than happy to throw its weight around. It has been less than perfect in caring about the effects this has on innocents and in truly taking responsibility.

I think that the solution is twofold. You can't have one of these without the other, not realistically or ethically:
1) Absolute control over the borders.
2) Do absolutely nothing to make life for people outside the borders worse.

The problem is that most (not all) of the people who are all for 1) are rabidly opposed to 2).

So it's the U.S. fault that Mexico and Central American countries are corrupt, under-developed countries who allow drug cartels to run their countries?