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The Punch Stats: GGG landed more power punches to Canelo's head, and dominated jabs.
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You cant just REMOVE the body punches lol.. that's like these idiots just removing the 100+ jabs GGG landed. They all count.
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The scoring system used in professional boxing is called the 10-Point Must System. These are the basics for scoring a round:
Judges score on a 10-point scale. Most rounds will end 10-9, with the more dominant boxer receiving 10 points, the other receiving 9.
If a boxer is knocked down, he loses a point. If a boxer is knocked down twice, he loses two points. If both fighters are knocked down, the knockdowns cancel each other out.
While uncommon, if a fighter completely dominates a round but doesn’t score a knockdown, a judge can still score that round 10-8.
If a judge deems the round completely even, both fighters receive 10 points.
When the referee sees fit, he can take away a point or two for an intentional foul; he can do the same for unintentional ones, but that usually occurs after at least a warning.
While you’d probably do well relying on the eyeball test to determine the winner of each round, it helps to know what a judge is looking for. These are the things that help determine which fighter won a round:
Effective Aggression – Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it’s not exactly “effective.” Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent
Ring Generalship – The fighter who controls the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense – How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.
Hard and Clean Punches – To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThe fact you are gerrymandering the power punches is ridiculous and biased.
Worse, you forgot the fact that GGG missed more punches which suggests Canelo won in terms of defense, which factors into scoring a fight.
Head snapping and "power punches to the head" are not scoring criteria.
If you think GGG won, cool. Just make your argument based on criteria the judges use to score the fight per the rules of the sport, not "Vlad's personal scorin' system".
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Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostAlright guys,
Here are the official punch count stats:
So let's go ahead and break those stats down.
Canelo landed 46 body shots, GGG landed 6.
And yet Canelo was the one who slowed down in the second half of the fight, while GGG upped his pace.
So clearly, Canelo's body shots were not effective.
Now let's do some basic math.
Body shots are considered to be power punches, and since they were not effective, let's remove them from the count, and to be fair, we will remove them for both fighters.
Canelo landed 143 total power punches, minus 46 body punches, leaving Canelo with 97 power punches upstairs.
GGG landed 116 total power punches, minus 6 body punches (and those 6 were more effective than Canelo's 46), leaving GGG with 110 power punches upstairs.
So in terms of power punches, GGG landed 13 more power punches to Canelo's head.
Now when it comes to jabs, Canelo landed 59, while GGG landed 118, effectively doubling Canelo in the Jab department, therefore dominating Canelo in that category.
Now talking about the face appearance, Canelo is 28, GGG is 36, and skin bruises a lot more at that age. And GGG always had easily marked skin. Also, GGG's cut was from a head clash, while Canelo's cut was from GGG's right hand. And while Canelo hit GGG in the facial area, GGG hit Canelo all over his skull.
GGG landed a lot more head snapping punches.
GGG landed more power punches to the head.
GGG doubled Canelo in the jab department.
GGG threw 879 punches to Canelo's 622, making him the much more active fighter.
So GGG is understandably still the real champ for the majority of the public. And Canelo got a nice undeserved gift.
A body shot counts as 3 points.
If you land a jab you lose a point.
If you survive a fight with GGG you gain 5 extra points each rounds.
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Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostOf course I would remove Canelo's body punches. I don't care how GGG was breathing. I care about how Canelo landed 46 shots and still couldn't slow GGG down, while GGG landed 6 shots and slowed the young Canelo down. So Canelo's "power body punches" were good at slowing himself down. Hell, had he not thrown those, maybe he would have had a little more stamina in the second half where the "old man who ate all those body punches" was the one upping the pace.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThe fact you are gerrymandering the power punches is ridiculous and biased.
Worse, you forgot the fact that GGG missed more punches which suggests Canelo won in terms of defense, which factors into scoring a fight.
Head snapping and "power punches to the head" are not scoring criteria.
If you think GGG won, cool. Just make your argument based on criteria the judges use to score the fight per the rules of the sport, not "Vlad's personal scorin' system".
Activity and efficiency of punches are scoring criteria, and GGG beat Canelo in both, outpacing him and slowing him down throughout the fight.
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Originally posted by kushking View PostGet it through your stupid biased head,body punches are the highest scoring punches in boxing you novice,& to top it off power shots are worth far more than jabs when scoring,only gggstans like you seem to not understand these FACTS along with the FACT that if 1 fighter heavily outlands the other in power shots & body shots they almost always have won the fight in the history of boxing.
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Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostYaaayyy. Canelo's punches slowed himself down more than they did GGG. Every body shot Canelo threw was good for GGG. Canelo slowed himself down.
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Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostNeither is bruised skin after a fight, and yet you see GGG's color filtered edited contrasted photo in almost every Canelo dickrider's avatar or signature...
Activity and efficiency of punches are scoring criteria, and GGG beat Canelo in both, outpacing him and slowing him down throughout the fight.
No vlad, the number of punches thrown is not a scoring criteria. Ring generalship, effective aggression, clean punching, defense.
I'm fine if you disagree with the judges. You just need to make your argument in the areas above otherwise you are not using the same scoring system the judges are REQUIRED to use by rule.
Can't use your own personal scoring system dude.
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