Can someone explain why Golovkin refused to fight Charlo?

[emceetns]

Because he's a one-trick pony who's been found out. He was getting out-classed by Kell Brook, before size won out. Since then he's beaten Vanes and Steve Rolls convincingly. Could easily have gone 0-4 against Canelo x2, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. He a killa doe!

If GGG was a one-trick pony then the top middleweights from 2012-2015 would have been more eager to face him. Nobody wanted the smoke until Kell Brook stepped up and got his face broken. He beat Canelo in the first fight, the rematch and the Jacobs fight could have gone either way, and yes I will give you Derevyanchenko. Also, Canelo could have easily taken the lion's share of the money to face Golovkin after he beat Miguel Cotto but he and Golden Boy knew what time it was. Everyone waited for him to slow down and that's a fact.

[Curt Henning]

you totally missed the point

first, you insist that Golovkin's resume could not possibly be any better

then, you totally ignore the bold

forget making excuses, for your ret4rded little brother... read the bold...

Golovkin could have fought Lara... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Ward... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Mora... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Cotto... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Saunders... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Charlo... but HE CHOSE not to

Golovkin could have fought Andrade... but HE CHOSE not to

FACT: Golovkin is 100% responsible... therefore 100% accountable... for his (shabby) resume'


saying that Lara was not a middleweight, is a plss-weak excuse

neither were Rosado, Brook, Vanes, etc...

Golovkin CHOSE not to fight Lara, who would have been his best opponent to date... so stop making silly excuses... FACT: Golovkin could have fought him, but he chose not to... just like all the others

it is childish to refuse to hold a man responsible for his own decisions

FACT: Golovkin's resume could be WAAAAAY better... and would be WAAAAAY better, if he was good enough... but nope, he passed

dude is fighting a mando that wasnt even called for by the ibf call so he can wait for another whiff of canelos underwear.....and if canelo decides to give him a taste again it likely wont even be at 160 and that belt will be useless.....

dude always takes the path of least resistance....when he went for the belt again he could have brought charlo over or fought andrade...instead of goes after the guy that jacobs already beat....and barely got by

[Curt Henning]

If GGG was a one-trick pony then the top middleweights from 2012-2015 would have been more eager to face him. Nobody wanted the smoke until Kell Brook stepped up and got his face broken. He beat Canelo in the first fight, the rematch and the Jacobs fight could have gone either way, and yes I will give you Derevyanchenko. Also, Canelo could have easily taken the lion's share of the money to face Golovkin after he beat Miguel Cotto but he and Golden Boy knew what time it was. Everyone waited for him to slow down and that's a fact.

andre ward wanted the smoke at 168...remember mr "anyone from 154-168" that tried to make fights there with froch and chavez?....remember abel "168 would be his best weight"...instead he waited around hoping for canelo to give him paydays....waited around all of 2016 to fight dom wade and kell brook(after making fun of canelo for fighting khan).....

ward called him in 2015 about making a fight in 2016...they said no within minutes...didnt even consider it....and they still didnt get canelo till later in 2017......they probably would have avoided jacobs too but they were starting to feel the pressure of adding something real to the resume and if he didnt fight jacobs canelo might have said "**** off"

[aboutfkntime]

dude is fighting a mando that wasnt even called for by the ibf call so he can wait for another whiff of canelos underwear.....and if canelo decides to give him a taste again it likely wont even be at 160 and that belt will be useless.....

dude always takes the path of least resistance....when he went for the belt again he could have brought charlo over or fought andrade...instead of goes after the guy that jacobs already beat....and barely got by

that has been clearly obvious for YEARS

what the fk is wrong with people

hearing Golovkin fans refer to him as a fearless warrior... is utterly ridiculous

that is like pacfans insisting that Manny only fights the best... despite the fact that he feasted on mid-level Top Rank jww's... and above 130, he NEVER fought the best other than Mayweather

[emceetns]

andre ward wanted the smoke at 168...remember mr "anyone from 154-168" that tried to make fights there with froch and chavez?....remember abel "168 would be his best weight"...instead he waited around hoping for canelo to give him paydays....waited around all of 2016 to fight dom wade and kell brook(after making fun of canelo for fighting khan).....

ward called him in 2015 about making a fight in 2016...they said no within minutes...didnt even consider it....and they still didnt get canelo till later in 2017......they probably would have avoided jacobs too but they were starting to feel the pressure of adding something real to the resume and if he didnt fight jacobs canelo might have said "**** off"

I give you Andre Ward and yes, the "154-168" statement was a mistake. The Ward debacle doesn't, however, erase the fact that guys like Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto wanted no part of him. Billy Joe Saunders said he wasn't ready at the time and Jacobs pretty much said the same until after the Kell Brook fight. You say GGG "didn't get Canelo until 2017" as if Canelo is the older fighter. Canelo could have easily faced GGG for Cinco De Mayo 2016 instead of Amir Khan. Golovkin had just unified impressively on PPV and Canelo had just beaten Cotto.

[AKAcronym]

I give you Andre Ward and yes, the "154-168" statement was a mistake. The Ward debacle doesn't, however, erase the fact that guys like Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto wanted no part of him. Billy Joe Saunders said he wasn't ready at the time and Jacobs pretty much said the same until after the Kell Brook fight. You say GGG "didn't get Canelo until 2017" as if Canelo is the older fighter. Canelo could have easily faced GGG for Cinco De Mayo 2016 instead of Amir Khan. Golovkin had just unified impressively on PPV and Canelo had just beaten Cotto.

He'll go on to say he could've had the fight at 155 if he wanted but didn't budge so it was his fault that the fight didn't get made earlier. He says 164 offer for Ward didn't mean that Golovkin actually wanted the fight but thinks Canelo and Cotto saying 155 meant that they did.

[Curt Henning]

He'll go on to say he could've had the fight at 155 if he wanted but didn't budge so it was his fault that the fight didn't get made earlier. He says 164 offer for Ward didn't mean that Golovkin actually wanted the fight but thinks Canelo and Cotto saying 155 meant that they did.

why do you need 164 to fight a guy when you said 168 was cool and you were looking for fights there? when you were trying to fight chavez and froch there? you do it because you know its a sure way to kill the fight and show the other side you clearly arent interested

at the time ward would have been by far the biggest of golovkins career....he just wasnt wanting to take that L before he could get canelo and everyone knows it

[Curt Henning]

I give you Andre Ward and yes, the "154-168" statement was a mistake. The Ward debacle doesn't, however, erase the fact that guys like Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto wanted no part of him. Billy Joe Saunders said he wasn't ready at the time and Jacobs pretty much said the same until after the Kell Brook fight. You say GGG "didn't get Canelo until 2017" as if Canelo is the older fighter. Canelo could have easily faced GGG for Cinco De Mayo 2016 instead of Amir Khan. Golovkin had just unified impressively on PPV and Canelo had just beaten Cotto.

canelo was fighting at "canelo weight"....as was cotto....which feel in the "154-168" range....golovkin didnt even try...sergio opted for a bigger fight with the bigger name in cotto...

i was referencing the time he got the first canelo fight in relation to when ward contacted them and even when he suggested they fight......

why does golovkin need to offer 164 when he didnt need that froch or chavez and ran his gums about 168? because he knew that would kill the fight and make the other guy know he wasnt serious....

[AKAcronym]

why do you need 164 to fight a guy when you said 168 was cool and you were looking for fights there? when you were trying to fight chavez and froch there? you do it because you know its a sure way to kill the fight and show the other side you clearly arent interested

at the time ward would have been by far the biggest of golovkins career....he just wasnt wanting to take that L before he could get canelo and everyone knows it

I always thought the 164 bit was bull**** and have stated so back when it happened. He said he would fight those guys at 168 because he would concede they were the bigger stars. With Ward at that time, Golovkin was clearly the bigger star. They felt that if they were the bigger name and moving up, they should get more than 50-50, which is what Ward wanted. That's why the 164 bit came about, so as to make everything 50-50 then. And as for the response to the other guy, Sergio dropped to 159, hardly sacrificing much to get a Cotto fight. But of course when it comes to Golovkin, not the case. I wouldn't have minded as much if they were fights contested that much below 160, but if they are holding a title, much less that title, **** off with trying to bring someone down. At least with Golovkin wanting Mayweather, 154 was a bridge for 2 guys who were definitely far apart in size. Canelo was hydrating the same as Golovkin was as far back as Trout. He clearly cut much more weight to get to 154/155 than G had to for 160. Making a catchweight fight shouldn't happen for 2 guys who are that similar in weight. 155 was clearly a benefit for Canelo.

[Curt Henning]

I always thought the 164 bit was bull**** and have stated so back when it happened. He said he would fight those guys at 168 because he would concede they were the bigger stars. With Ward at that time, Golovkin was clearly the bigger star. They felt that if they were the bigger name and moving up, they should get more than 50-50, which is what Ward wanted. That's why the 164 bit came about, so as to make everything 50-50 then. And as for the response to the other guy, Sergio dropped to 159, hardly sacrificing much to get a Canelo fight. But of course when it comes to Golovkin, not the case. I wouldn't have minded as much if they were fights contested that much below 160, but if they are holding a title, much less that title, **** off with trying to bring someone down. At least with Golovkin wanting Mayweather, 154 was a bridge for 2 guys who were definitely far apart in size. Canelo was hydrating the same as Golovkin was as far back as Trout. He clearly cut much more weight to get to 154/155 than G had to for 160. Making a catchweight fight shouldn't happen for 2 guys who are that similar in weight. 155 was clearly a benefit for Canelo.

sure...and canelo was the much bigger star....so thats what that bit was all about

lol@thinking golovkin was such a much bigger star than ward...he wasnt at the time..he was just active....his resume was still weak...lemiuex was gonna be the best name on it at that point.....ward was such a small name at the time that hbo paid him to fight barrera and brand and then put him on ppv? i mean.....ward had just come back and hbo wanted ward/kovalev badly....why would they want that fight if wards name wasnt one that rang bells?

stop trying to justify it...its plain and simple and everyone who isnt putting the glasses on it knows it...they wanted no part of a fight with ward and were chasing the canelo payday