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Old 06-17-2019, 10:39 PM #11
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Did they say he’s the espn champ? If he’s technically the lineal champ, he’s the lineal champ...that doesn’t mean other organizations and media have to rate him #1 by default.
What? Their ratings say lineal champs are rated #1, Fury isn't rated #1 so he's not lineal. It's not difficult.
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Old 06-17-2019, 10:41 PM #12
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Every network hypes their fighters
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Old 06-17-2019, 10:42 PM #13
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Every network hypes their fighters
Yes, but i think other networks would be smart enough to have someone they claim to be lineal actually lineal in their ratings.
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Old 06-17-2019, 10:58 PM #14
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Yes, but i think other networks would be smart enough to have someone they claim to be lineal actually lineal in their ratings.
That was before Fury fought just now ain’t it? Either way I usually agree with dan Rafael non bias self
With exception of his j rock Hurd scoring

He prolly rated wilder due to fighting ranked opponent.
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Old 06-17-2019, 11:28 PM #15
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It was quite pathetic they way they hyped it up. Even respected champions like Ward and Bradley hyping it. Saying it went all the way back to John L Sullivan etc.

when they did that roll of champions, they conveniently quickly hopped over Lennox Lewis -> Wladimir Klitschko.

"Lennox lewis became undisputed after beating Holyfield... then there was Wladimir Klitschko".

Embarrassing marketing ploy for something that means absolutely nothing. The truth is that Fury retired and gave up his lineage, that barely went back to Klitschko anyway. I have my doubts whether Klitschko could truthfully be considered lineal champ anyway.
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Old 06-18-2019, 01:04 AM #16
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Fury's lineage is fuzzy.....

like kafkod pointed out, Wlad never held the WBC title..... but the truth is, the WBC did not even rank Wladimir simply because he was the WBA champ..... unlike when the WBC decided to rank the WBA champ Golovkin.....

also, few insiders rate Wlad over Vitali head-to-head..... even though the argument exists that Wlad achieved more

this is the best/most relevant post, in this thread so far.....


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lineal is meaningless

tired of all this ESPN hype

Manny Pacquiao is the lineal welterweight champion. that means nothing now.

since belts and titles are meaningless, they are only as good as the guy who is holding them.

what gives some title value? if the guy holding it fought and beat the best opponents.

Thats it.
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Old 06-18-2019, 01:08 AM #17
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What? Their ratings say lineal champs are rated #1, Fury isn't rated #1 so he's not lineal. It's not difficult.
Fury is the lineal champion. Lineage since Sullivan.
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Old 06-18-2019, 02:26 AM #18
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"If there is a lineal champion in a weight class, he is ranked No. 1."

1. Wilder
2. Fury
3. Ruiz
4. Joshua
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you fool how u put Wilder ahead of Fury everrybody knows fury beat him
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Old 06-18-2019, 03:15 AM #19
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Fury is the lineal champion. Lineage since Sullivan.
ESPN ratings say not

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you fool how u put Wilder ahead of Fury everrybody knows fury beat him
Those are ESPN ratings you fool.
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You don't have to be number 1 to be the lineal look at Shannon Briggs
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