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Old 06-01-2019, 06:58 PM #11
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No they won't. Once they're this insane, they will rationalize anything. There is no particular event that will wake them up or change their minds.
Yes and no.

Yes about people rationalising, yes about being almost impossible to change their minds.

No about them having to reach a threshhold of insanity.

Almost every asshole doubles down on their stupid beliefs. It has almost nothing to do with whether their beliefs are extreme or not, and has everything to do with their emotional attachment to that belief.

A quick test is this. If you would feel awkward telling people, or admitting to yourself, that you had been wrong about something, then you are fucked.

The thing is that when people have extremist beliefs, harmful beliefs, then doubling down on them is more a of a problem.

Here is an article I read yesterday describing some current research into the doubling down phenomenon.

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Old 06-01-2019, 07:01 PM #12
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:05 PM #13
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First of all this is BS because I was told a woman can do what a man can. Second, they wanted equal rights. Play on playa.
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I've been recently looking into the issue of trans people in sports. There has been some contention amongst youtube commentators about this very topic, and where the science resides.

The best and most comprehensive summary is below.

However, it is almost an hour and a half long.

The summary is that trans activists have not established that they don't have an unfair advantage.

As an aside, I would also note that many trans-activists have been trying to reverse the burden of proof on this. They insist that everyone prove to them that HRT doesn't level the playing field.

However the truth claim is that HRT does level the playing field. Therefore the burden of proof lies squarely on that claim.

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Old 06-01-2019, 07:09 PM #16
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That's just stupid and kind of dangerous when that translates into combat sports. There's supposed to be female hormone treatments involved when a transgender is transitioning and there should he some kind of testing to make sure of said hormone levels otherwise you just have a transvestite and not a transgender, which makes the competition completely unfair. If they're not gonna test, then they might as well let high school athletes compete with grade schoolers or boys against girls in school while we're at it, because this is essentially the same thing. Anyone who can't see that has their tucked genitals too far up their ass.
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good job !!

either.....

let that stupidity stop, for the sake of humanity

or.....

let that stupidity fcuk EVERYTHING up..... so humanity can have a REAL good laugh
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Men are physically superior to women.


RIP Women's sport.

The Feminists will be fighting the other SJWs on this.
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Yes and no.

Yes about people rationalising, yes about being almost impossible to change their minds.

No about them having to reach a threshhold of insanity.

Almost every asshole doubles down on their stupid beliefs. It has almost nothing to do with whether their beliefs are extreme or not, and has everything to do with their emotional attachment to that belief.

A quick test is this. If you would feel awkward telling people, or admitting to yourself, that you had been wrong about something, then you are fucked.

The thing is that when people have extremist beliefs, harmful beliefs, then doubling down on them is more a of a problem.

Here is an article I read yesterday describing some current research into the doubling down phenomenon.

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Right, it's tied to existential identity. Most people aren't living their dream life and have their fair share of regrets, but as a coping mechanism we cherish the wisdom we've gained along the way.

To give them an identity (perceived wisdom at odds with the generally ignorant masses) then rip it away is like pulling teeth.

This is a healthy psychological mechanism in a primitive world where people are actually gaining wisdom from hands-on experience and wired to cherish it, but it's very unhealthy in a world where most people become vested in journalism.

It also ties heavily into Nassim Taleb's theory of "skin in the game". If most of these people actually had a stake in this (ie were directly involved in women's athletics) then the situation would be much different because they would be pressured towards a logical solution in order to achieve their shared goal (preserving women's athletics).

But when 99% of the people opining are random online citizens with no stake whatsoever, it's just a matter of which "journalist" got to them first and bestowed their identity with new wisdom.

In regards to insanity; of course it isn't a prerequisite to being in denial about a debunked belief.

In this specific context, though...? Insanity is medically defined by an impaired ability to distinguish between fantasy and measurable reality.

Legal accommodation for "transgenders" is a justifiably two-sided issue, but the extreme wing who believe gender has no physical/biological significance in things like athletic competition are dipping well into the realm of insanity...

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