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Old 05-23-2019, 07:00 PM #181
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It is hard to really judge.

Not all boxers fight the same way. Wilder is one dimensional. Almost every right he throws is a quick but looping shot that is seeking a knockout.

How do you compare that against someone like Wladimir, who threw textbook shots, yet filled opponents with fear just from his first jabs? Or Tyson, who threw with the same bad intentions as Wilder, but much better form, and would turn people's lights out with a perfect short left hook?

How do you accurately compare him with Shavers, Foreman, Liston or Tua? Guys who hurt people with the thudding power of their jab, not just their biggest windmill shots...

Right now, Wilder seems to be a tall, skinny version of Butterbean.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:06 PM #182
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I think it's fair to say Wilder throws the "hardest punch" as he puts so much into that right hand when he misses he falls off balance. Klitschko, Lewis and AJ never commit that much so while they probably had/have the potential to punch as hard they don't do it to maintain their balance and positioning.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:08 PM #183
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it's irrefutable. He's banging guys out 30+ lbs heavier with a single punch.


you think Julian Jackson can 1 punch KO a cruiserweight?
You're getting carried away son

Post here let's say, Deyonce best 5 ko's. And I will absolutely be able to show you at least 10 other boxers who had similar ko credit.

Calm.down Wilderesttes, your guy is a basketball player whose feet are all wrong and he has decent punch against lower opposition.

Chill my bros, you're getting too excited
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He was 210 lbs fight night against fury and 220 lbs against brezale. He's no cw.
At what weight do you think CWs actually fight after rehydration?
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Even George Foreman stated that Deontay Wilder is hitting a lot harder than he was in his day and could have knocked out anyone at anytime with his power in the heavyweight division; Including himself, Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier. That's saying a lot coming from a legend like George; Because he is considered one of the most prolific heavyweight punchers of all-time.
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he would knock Ali, Foreman, Marciano out cold.
I think you've taken too many HeadShots.
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How do you compare that against someone like Wladimir, who threw textbook shots, yet filled opponents with fear just from his first jabs? Or Tyson, who threw with the same bad intentions as Wilder, but much better form, and would turn people's lights out with a perfect short left hook?

How do you accurately compare him with Shavers, Foreman, Liston or Tua? Guys who hurt people with the thudding power of their jab, not just their biggest windmill shots...

Right now, Wilder seems to be a tall, skinny version of Butterbean.
Wladimir-Shut out in an even worse fashion against Fury, stopped by Sanders, Brewster, Purrity.

Shavers-Multiple losses to guys nobody remembers.

Liston-Losses to guys nobody remembers, rocked by guys nobody remembers.

Foreman-The guy that nearly went the distance 2x with a literal light heavyweight, Peralta?

Tua-Whom many feel should've lost to Jeff Wooden?

None of these guys are like Wilder because they all lost against guys that Wilder toy with on a regular basis.
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Wladimir-Shut out in an even worse fashion against Fury, stopped by Sanders, Brewster, Purrity.

Shavers-Multiple losses to guys nobody remembers.

Liston-Losses to guys nobody remembers, rocked by guys nobody remembers.

Foreman-The guy that nearly went the distance 2x with a literal light heavyweight, Peralta?

Tua-Whom many feel should've lost to Jeff Wooden?

None of these guys are like Wilder because they all lost against guys that Wilder toy with on a regular basis.
Although there is plenty to discuss in your post, there is only one main point to make.

I'm talking about punching power. That's all. Not overall ability. So what you think of their resume is irrelevant.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:47 PM #189
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Not enough hard proof for that. He has to fight more top guys and then we’ll see.

Like GGG being labeled as this KO machine while he was fighting, at best, B class fighters and guys coming up in weight class.

Same for Wilder. The best guy he fought was Fury, and sure he hit him and dropped him hard but Fury survived 12.

Also Stiverne went 12 with him in their first fight. He made up for it by stopping him in the rematch, but that doesn’t null the first fight going 12.
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I think it's fair to say Wilder throws the "hardest punch" as he puts so much into that right hand when he misses he falls off balance. Klitschko, Lewis and AJ never commit that much so while they probably had/have the potential to punch as hard they don't do it to maintain their balance and positioning.
True but they’re also bigger (in weight) and look slower. So there would be more consequences for them.

Wilder is relatively thin, and fast and can recover from lunging like he does, better than the 3 you mentioned.
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