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Old 04-27-2019, 12:03 PM #421
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These fighters need to realize their management works for them, not the other way around.
Ortiz has never made 7 figures for a fight. He can’t let Haymon or anyone else stop him from taking care of his family and making life changing money.
Shame, hopefully this is a wake up call for him. Would be a shame if he lost out in this fight because of petty boxing politics.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:40 PM #422
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I stopped reading after the first sentence. You're pathetic for even stooping that low....it shows your level of intellect, such as it is.

You simply can't handle a debate without resorting to "you people", but if my mom slept with her cousin and birthed me, then I'd talk in the same fashion as you.

Move along, you stunk up the joint already.
You can't see your fellow Americans coming out with madness every day on these threads?

Yet i'm the result of incest?

If only you people could get a grip on irony it would be wonderful.

They hate and smear daily. They contradict themselves daily. They prove themselves to be hypocrites daily. They spread lies daily. They spread delusion and disrespect daily. So forgive me for pointing out your madness all the time and getting sick of it poisoning this site and every other boxing site out there. Hell, you can even tell which posts are from Americans on YT by how detached from reality they are.

Talk sense and we're good. Go beyond what is acceptable and I'll have the same amount of respect that is shown to logic and reality by Americans all over the internet... Which is absolutely f3cking none.
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:24 PM #423
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Two Simple questions just to gain some clarification. Do boxers typically command more money as an undefeated boxer or more once they lose a fight by KO?

Who is the undefeated boxer, Miller or Ortiz?
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:30 PM #424
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These fighters need to realize their management works for them, not the other way around.
Ortiz has never made 7 figures for a fight. He canít let Haymon or anyone else stop him from taking care of his family and making life changing money.
Shame, hopefully this is a wake up call for him. Would be a shame if he lost out in this fight because of petty boxing politics.
You seem to be forgetting a pretty important fact:

"these fighters" signed away their right to make any decisions when they signed their advisor / management / promotional contracts. its not like they can just wake up one morning and say "hey THIS is what I want". It doesnt work that way.......
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:23 AM #425
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So who is the tool right now??? Hahaha, you just made a tool of yourself with all the BS talk, Ortiz has been called out for the wimp he is for rejecting 7m his fellow Cubans where shocked he rejected that much bread when his highest purse is 500k...well, being stupid cant be fixed no one can help you or Ortiz.
I'm done here. Get new parts for your head.
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Old 04-29-2019, 10:31 PM #426
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Can't ever answer questions can you f3ck face? It's a huge problem for you.

Wilder knocks everyone out does he? Yeah, he did a great job in the first Stiverne fight and with Fury. Jeez, stupidity is off the scale. Apart from Ortiz, who gassed out badly by the way, they were complete bums. So who cares if he knocked out a load of garbage? No one cares. Lets see the coward do it to Whyte and AJ. Oh no, wait, he's too scared and turning down his biggest paydays for them. Typical American coward he is. All he does is run from proper fights and struggles with bums until he finally knocks them out late in the fight. Great.
Whyte is a bum. He goes life and death with Chisora. Is Chisora an elite heavyweight you dumb shit? That's a resume win according to you for Joshua lmao. Hell even Takam made your resume for big Anthony Joshua wins. Whyte would not last 5 rounds with Deontay. It isn't even a noteworthy fight for Wilder. He knocked Stiverne out in one round boy. Your bringing up the first fight just shows you fail to see just how much more devastating Wilder is. Joshua and Hearn are ducking for a reason nancy boy. Like I said he's put down everyone he's been in with. Had Fury down twice. Should have been a ten count but Fury got the benefit of being in overly fair America and that saved him. Ortiz gassed out from Deontay gassing him out and beating his ass. Joshua can't do that. He's too busy chasing that fat pig Ruiz and telling papa hearn to stay away from the big bad wolf Ortiz. Joshua would never drop Fury in a hundred fights. He's a basic fighter. Whyte Chisora and Joshua are all just a bunch of b string wanna be's that will never ascend to the level of a Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. They just don't have it. You are nothing more than a nut soggy crumpet blinded by your bias.
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Old 04-30-2019, 11:13 PM #427
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Whyte is a bum. He goes life and death with Chisora. Is Chisora an elite heavyweight you dumb shit? That's a resume win according to you for Joshua lmao. Hell even Takam made your resume for big Anthony Joshua wins. Whyte would not last 5 rounds with Deontay. It isn't even a noteworthy fight for Wilder. He knocked Stiverne out in one round boy. Your bringing up the first fight just shows you fail to see just how much more devastating Wilder is. Joshua and Hearn are ducking for a reason nancy boy. Like I said he's put down everyone he's been in with. Had Fury down twice. Should have been a ten count but Fury got the benefit of being in overly fair America and that saved him. Ortiz gassed out from Deontay gassing him out and beating his ass. Joshua can't do that. He's too busy chasing that fat pig Ruiz and telling papa hearn to stay away from the big bad wolf Ortiz. Joshua would never drop Fury in a hundred fights. He's a basic fighter. Whyte Chisora and Joshua are all just a bunch of b string wanna be's that will never ascend to the level of a Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. They just don't have it. You are nothing more than a nut soggy crumpet blinded by your bias.
Whyte is a bum yet Wilder fights guys much lesser than him for much less money? Clown shoes.

Whyte would not last 5 rounds yet fighters much much lesser than him can? Clown shoes.

It isn't a noteworthy fight for wilder? Yet complete bums who have proven nothing are? Clown shoes.

Wilder knocked out a shot to pieces Stiverne in the rematch while he was fatter than a beached whale. Clown shoes.

Yes, Deontay is devastating. A devastating ******. Just like you, clown shoes.

Finkle has come out and said they're not fighting AJ until 2020. Clown shoes.

America is the most corrupt country on the planet. Fury won but got ripped off on the cards. The time on the clock shows Fury wasn't down longer than 10 seconds. Clown shoes.

The only thing that happened in the first 6 rounds between Wilder and Ortiz was a knock down of Ortiz while the rest of the time was spent looking at each other while the crowd booed. Ortiz then nearly had Wilder out in the 7th only to gas out trying to finish him. Ortiz had nothing left coming out for the 8th. So how could Wilder beat his ass and make him gas out when Wilder hardly landed a punch before the 8th round? Clown shoes.

The Ortiz team have acknowledged that it was their fault the fight didn't happen. Clown shoes.

Ascend to Wilder's level? Hahahahahaha. No thanks. We actually like our fighters to have skill, balls, and a resume that isn't filled with bums after 41 fights. Clown shoes.

You don't have mental illness. You have something far beyond that. Something dark and creepy beyond the walls of reality. You'll never know how much of a weirdo you truly are you're that far gone. nor will you understand the levels of delusion that grips your country on a wide scale. You are nothing but zombies who need serious help but without the kind of medicine you need. The medicine you need will never exist because science will never be able to reach the level that is needed to help such f3cking freaks.

Good bye clown shoes.
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Whyte is a bum. He goes life and death with Chisora. Is Chisora an elite heavyweight you dumb shit? That's a resume win according to you for Joshua lmao. Hell even Takam made your resume for big Anthony Joshua wins. Whyte would not last 5 rounds with Deontay. It isn't even a noteworthy fight for Wilder. He knocked Stiverne out in one round boy. Your bringing up the first fight just shows you fail to see just how much more devastating Wilder is. Joshua and Hearn are ducking for a reason nancy boy. Like I said he's put down everyone he's been in with. Had Fury down twice. Should have been a ten count but Fury got the benefit of being in overly fair America and that saved him. Ortiz gassed out from Deontay gassing him out and beating his ass. Joshua can't do that. He's too busy chasing that fat pig Ruiz and telling papa hearn to stay away from the big bad wolf Ortiz. Joshua would never drop Fury in a hundred fights. He's a basic fighter. Whyte Chisora and Joshua are all just a bunch of b string wanna be's that will never ascend to the level of a Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. They just don't have it. You are nothing more than a nut soggy crumpet blinded by your bias.
If Whyte is a bum, then why is the bum Wilder running???? Fury too donít want no smoke with pin-head Whyte.
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I'm done here. Get new parts for your head.
Run little girl, run...you need to put on your thinking cap mate, am sure you got the memo Ortiz has been exposed as a fraud and a duck...quack quack quack...7m and he still ran like a little beetch such as yourself...who needs brain parts now muppet?your sorry likes have been exposed as having no ability for critical thinking
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Whyte is a bum yet Wilder fights guys much lesser than him for much less money? Clown shoes.

Whyte would not last 5 rounds yet fighters much much lesser than him can? Clown shoes.

It isn't a noteworthy fight for wilder? Yet complete bums who have proven nothing are? Clown shoes.

Wilder knocked out a shot to pieces Stiverne in the rematch while he was fatter than a beached whale. Clown shoes.

Yes, Deontay is devastating. A devastating ******. Just like you, clown shoes.

Finkle has come out and said they're not fighting AJ until 2020. Clown shoes.

America is the most corrupt country on the planet. Fury won but got ripped off on the cards. The time on the clock shows Fury wasn't down longer than 10 seconds. Clown shoes.

The only thing that happened in the first 6 rounds between Wilder and Ortiz was a knock down of Ortiz while the rest of the time was spent looking at each other while the crowd booed. Ortiz then nearly had Wilder out in the 7th only to gas out trying to finish him. Ortiz had nothing left coming out for the 8th. So how could Wilder beat his ass and make him gas out when Wilder hardly landed a punch before the 8th round? Clown shoes.

The Ortiz team have acknowledged that it was their fault the fight didn't happen. Clown shoes.

Ascend to Wilder's level? Hahahahahaha. No thanks. We actually like our fighters to have skill, balls, and a resume that isn't filled with bums after 41 fights. Clown shoes.

You don't have mental illness. You have something far beyond that. Something dark and creepy beyond the walls of reality. You'll never know how much of a weirdo you truly are you're that far gone. nor will you understand the levels of delusion that grips your country on a wide scale. You are nothing but zombies who need serious help but without the kind of medicine you need. The medicine you need will never exist because science will never be able to reach the level that is needed to help such f3cking freaks.

Good bye clown shoes.
Slow people repeat words over and over. Bum Joshua ran from Ortiz like a coward. You throat clown dongs you hot tea drinking piece of ****
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