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Old 01-19-2012, 09:09 AM #871
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Just watched this youtube vid. I have a couple serious questions not pertaining to *******/***** bs. The hacienda luisita farmers that were suppost to inheret the land but were ripped off the gov and demonstrators murdered in broad daylight. That seems to happen alot. Are pinoy citizens allowed to own guns? What are your rights regaurding peaceful demonstrations and free speech. the vid also implies government controlled media is that true. im not to easily sold on youtube op pieces so i wanted your guys imput on these matters. all red k aside im genuinely interested.
You said you are not easily sold on YouTube but you seem to believe it as gospel truth.

It is true Hacienda Luisita should have been distributed to the farmers years ago.

The history of acquisition by the powerful and influential Cojuangco family of the Hacienda Luisita shows that the money they used to buy the hacienda came from public funds.

The Cojuangcos obtained loans from Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (Central Bank) and Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) to purchase the hacienda from Tabacalera, a Spanish corporation that owned the property.
A condition required the Cojuangcos to distribute the property after 10 years from acquisition. This however, did not happen. So technically, the land is owned by the farmers in Luisita.

To make the long story short, the government did not rip off the farmers, it was the present landowners through connections and influences that did it. In fact, past government presidents except Cory, Arroyo, and Aquino have urged the powerful family that owned the land to turn it over to the farmers.

With regards the notorious Hacienda Luisita shooting of picketers that happened sometime 2004, how did you get the impression that this incident is a regular occurrence in the Philippines? Clashes between police and picketers even if it result to some deaths can hardly be classified as murders. Shootings similar to what happened in Luisita occasionally happen even in the most developed countries including the US.

Anyhow, I like your interest in our country. Try to learn more but not from YouTube.

Hindi muna kita ipadadala sa algeria ngayon. hehe sa susunod na lang. Mga tol wah ninyo translate.

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Old 01-19-2012, 06:41 PM #872
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You said you are not easily sold on YouTube but you seem to believe it as gospel truth.

It is true Hacienda Luisita should have been distributed to the farmers years ago.

The history of acquisition by the powerful and influential Cojuangco family of the Hacienda Luisita shows that the money they used to buy the hacienda came from public funds.

The Cojuangcos obtained loans from Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (Central Bank) and Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) to purchase the hacienda from Tabacalera, a Spanish corporation that owned the property.
A condition required the Cojuangcos to distribute the property after 10 years from acquisition. This however, did not happen. So technically, the land is owned by the farmers in Luisita.

To make the long story short, the government did not rip off the farmers, it was the present landowners through connections and influences that did it. In fact, past government presidents except Cory, Arroyo, and Aquino have urged the powerful family that owned the land to turn it over to the farmers.

With regards the notorious Hacienda Luisita shooting of picketers that happened sometime 2004, how did you get the impression that this incident is a regular occurrence in the Philippines? Clashes between police and picketers even if it result to some deaths can hardly be classified as murders. Shootings similar to what happened in Luisita occasionally happen even in the most developed countries including the US.

Anyhow, I like your interest in our country. Try to learn more but not from YouTube.

Hindi muna kita ipadadala sa algeria ngayon. hehe sa susunod na lang. Mga tol wah ninyo translate.
First we did not send in Algeria today. only appearances next. Wah you translate the toll. that was the google translate did the quality of the vids is top notch thats why i watched a few. yeah ive been googling the hacienda luisita situation. your guys politics is extremely interesting. again i wasnt sold on his opinion but wanted your guys input on these subjects. hope im not a bother but ill be back with more questions.
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Mga tol na old timers, ano na ba nangyari sa mga noypi na makamandag?

Nasan na sila ngayon?

Nasa paclan na yata hehe
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