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Old 05-13-2019, 11:01 AM #1
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fought Ortiz-top 5 HW
tried like heck to get AJ fight..so much that everyone in the boxing world(fighters, trainers, promoters...u know the guys that matter...not forum fanbois of fighters) said AJs side was ducking
went and got fury the lineal champ(at the time we weren't sure what fury was...what we saw was a top 5 HW at worst)
tried like heck to get immediate rematch with top 4 guy that everyone said embarrassed and outboxed him...but that guy unanimously swerved the fight we can all agree on that one
says hes not worried about AJ and wont fight him this year but will defend his wbc belt next

AJ
fought bum paper champ joe parker
fought old as balls povetkin
was trying to fight jarrell miller...miller had to be replaced and joshuas team is telling everyone that the replacement is actually better and more dangerous than the guy they had actually handpicked

lets use logic and reasoning here

is it more likely that deontay wilder, who fought Ortiz and fury back to back while trying to get immediate rematch with fury, is scared of Anthony Joshua? or is it more likely that wilders team is sick of being jerked around by hearn and his nonsense....and also DAZN deals which appear great but might not be exactly what they are sold to be?

im saying..based on the evidence we have....its more logical to reason that wilder is not scared of a top 5 guy or champ.....in fact its way more likely, based on recent evidence, that he is sick of team AJ and their childish antics and their "no US ppv...lets take money of your plate and also fight for us" deals

have a good day....remember...try using logic and reasoning when making your opinions
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:04 AM #2
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Povetkin was a good win
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:09 AM #3
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Povetkin was a good win
I guess

but marco huck beat the dog piss out of him years ago......I don't think as much of povektin as some here....but fair enough...ill let him have that

although had wilder knocked him out in his title defense(if povetkin didn't cheat) what do you think AJ fans would have said about povetkin and that hypothetical win?
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This is a pretty good non bias analysis, I will say tho Deontay and Joshua need each other and the further it delays itís not only messing with us fans but both guys mental states they know they need to fight but the politics are out of control.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:16 AM #5
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Seems pretty on point .
But if you go by some of the comments on NSB you'd think Wilder is hiding under a rock in Alabama afraid of his own shadow .
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Seems pretty on point .
But if you go by some of the comments on NSB you'd think Wilder is hiding under a rock in Alabama afraid of his own shadow .
He really did challenge himself last year. Fighting Ortiz and Fury is impressive imo.

Ortiz is 800 million billion years old and Fury is fat though they say......
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:21 AM #7
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Seems pretty on point .
But if you go by some of the comments on NSB you'd think Wilder is hiding under a rock in Alabama afraid of his own shadow .
ya...that's just noise from the UK/anti pbc/anti African American fanbois...they don't use logic..and if they ever do you can bet they will contradict that logic when it comes to defending a guy they like/hating on a guy they don't like at some other time

wilders team is tired of the childs play and jerking around from that side....wilder realizes his profile, and worth to that fight, is rising every time he fights...hes not concerned

his only concern is taking care of the guy that is on his docket...for that is the only thing that impedes him from mega money
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wilder

fought Ortiz-top 5 HW
tried like heck to get AJ fight..so much that everyone in the boxing world(fighters, trainers, promoters...u know the guys that matter...not forum fanbois of fighters) said AJs side was ducking
went and got fury the lineal champ(at the time we weren't sure what fury was...what we saw was a top 5 HW at worst)
tried like heck to get immediate rematch with top 4 guy that everyone said embarrassed and outboxed him...but that guy unanimously swerved the fight we can all agree on that one
says hes not worried about AJ and wont fight him this year but will defend his wbc belt next

AJ
fought bum paper champ joe parker
fought old as balls povetkin
was trying to fight jarrell miller...miller had to be replaced and joshuas team is telling everyone that the replacement is actually better and more dangerous than the guy they had actually handpicked

lets use logic and reasoning here

is it more likely that deontay wilder, who fought Ortiz and fury back to back while trying to get immediate rematch with fury, is scared of Anthony Joshua? or is it more likely that wilders team is sick of being jerked around by hearn and his nonsense....and also DAZN deals which appear great but might not be exactly what they are sold to be?

im saying..based on the evidence we have....its more logical to reason that wilder is not scared of a top 5 guy or champ.....in fact its way more likely, based on recent evidence, that he is sick of team AJ and their childish antics and their "no US ppv...lets take money of your plate and also fight for us" deals

have a good day....remember...try using logic and reasoning when making your opinions

Wilders version of trying to get AJ fight is make one offer and refuse to meet to discuss it no negotiation. No attempt at negotiating offers received either just cries 50-50 or no fight if it's not what he wanted. He was literally refusing to meet to make the fight.

Lol also Povetkin is younger than Ortiz and acheived more amateur and professional.

If Parkers a paper Champ, Ortiz is a paper nobody.

Fury looked rubbish against Pianneta, Wilder thought he was gonna be fighting that same guy for an easy scalp, no way you can convince us he has a crystal ball and saw Fury would become a challenge between that fight and December. Plus Wilder got a draw which was even controvertial.

Wilder said he's freezing AJ out till late next year earliest and Whyte out for two years, real fight talk.

Wilders 1.5 year is basically him teaming up with Fury to piggy back AJ's name.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:23 AM #9
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He really did challenge himself last year. Fighting Ortiz and Fury is impressive imo.

Ortiz is 800 million billion years old and Fury is fat though they say......
if Ortiz is 800 billion years old than what does the povetkin win mean?
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:28 AM #10
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Wilders version of trying to get AJ fight is make one offer and refuse to meet to discuss it no negotiation. No attempt at negotiating offers received either just cries 50-50 or no fight if it's not what he wanted. He was literally refusing to meet to make the fight.

Lol also Povetkin is younger than Ortiz and acheived more amateur and professional.

If Parkers a paper Champ, Ortiz is a paper nobody.

Fury looked rubbish against Pianneta, Wilder thought he was gonna be fighting that same guy for an easy scalp, no way you can convince us he has a crystal ball and saw Fury would become a challenge between that fight and December. Plus Wilder got a draw which was even controvertial.

Wilder said he's freezing AJ out till late next year earliest and Whyte out for two years, real fight talk.

Wilders 1.5 year is basically him teaming up with Fury to piggy back AJ's name.
your version of the first couple of go rounds means nothing...because you are a biased fanboi

ill go with the opinion of fighters, former fighters, trainers, managers/promoters etc...they all seemed to agree it was team hearn holding things up

wilder didn't have a crystal ball...but what he did get in the ring with was a very solid fury...and when people said that fury "embarrassed and outboxed him" he wanted to do it again immediately....that tells you something about the kid....and we all saw fury run for protection

logic and reason doesn't favor your argument

AJ has been taking light touches and swerved wilder

wilder has been taking challenges and trying to make good/big fights.....hes tired of the games from team hearn and will fight when they are ready to be reasonable and they come back to him(and they will as the pressure will be on the champ/a-side to make fight from the fans)

good day pleb
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