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  • #31
    Originally posted by KLockard23 View Post

    I suppose he could have granted him a second shot right away, but when you dominate and finish your opponent (especially someone thought to be unstoppable like Big George was back then), you can't really fault them for not doing so. Knocking your opponent out doesn't really demand a rematch like the way having a close fight would of.
    And Ali just fought Frazier the fight before Foreman and Norton two fights prior to that. He had his "easy" fight in Chuck Wepner right after Foreman followed by Ron Lyle who was obviously no push over himself.

    OP made this thread for shock value, nothing more. Obviously an ignorant troll. We would be so lucky if a modern day fighter fought the opponents that he did. Instead we have guys that need 2-5 years to take on one challenge.

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    • #32
      Ali won most of the rounds against Foreman and then sparked him mid fight lmfao. You could almost call it easy work.

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      • #33
        What an awful thread

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        • #34
          Originally posted by whirlout View Post
          The sour grapes or rather the hate in you is oozing out, it is beyond pathetic. Which one is it, are we talking about Ali the boxer or Ali the racist that you sorely referred to him as in your responses to other comments. Ali was a controversial figure without question and sure he had some bad moments in judgment especially with his alliance with the crooked figures of Islam but Ali's finer moments far outweighed his bad ones and it is sad that the hate in you won't let you see that.

          Now to Ali the boxer, you conveniently left out the actual fight and here banging your heads against the wall clamoring about what Foreman was going to do in a rematch. That bias is so great you can't even take some time to talk about what happened in the actual fight and how that would have been different in the rematch. Ali basically took Foreman's heart and soul in that fight and endured tremendous amounts of punishment and went on to knock Foreman out despite all the odds against him. People were already talking about Ali's death at the time due to Foreman's imposing and killer mentality at the time. That feat still hasn't been replicated since when you consider the overwhelming odds, his absence from boxing and he was out of his prime at the time.

          Rematch wasn't really warranted considering the way Ali ended the fight and while it might have been to difficult to duplicate, who is to say Ali can't win a decision having already experienced what Foreman brings to the table. The element of surprise is no longer an issue. As for him being the greatest, whether he proclaimed it or it was bestowed on him, the vast majority consider him just that, his resume suggest that, his character suggest that and if you poll boxing audience today, the majority will agree he is. If the majority agrees, isn't that how something is affirmed if so, then what is the problem. Just put the hate aside and appreciate the man for the fine boxer he was and the greatest fight albeit 30 years or so ago still being talked about till today. Whatever you feel about his character doesn't take away from the transcending fighter that he was in his time.
          He is being an *******, but the way you right off his racism as bad moments of judgement with crooked figures islam is insane. You would never write off some white boxer spending time with the KKK like that.

          But yeah Frasier>Ali.....Or did you idiots miss the first fight?

          The saddest part about Ali is that he could have been better. What a fighter though.

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          • #35
            Foreman would have never beaten Ali, not untill Ali was old enough like against Holmes and Berbick. Ali destroyed him mentally and boxed him silly. Foreman did nothing that fight aside from landing some body shots while Ali was laying on the ropes. Whenever they weren't doing that Ali was 1-2ing George's head all around the ring, he was such a superior boxer and made Foreman looked like a wild, plodding tough man contestant.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by RED REP View Post
              Ali won most of the rounds against Foreman and then sparked him mid fight lmfao. You could almost call it easy work.
              He beat the **** out of Foreman. People just remember the phrase Rope a Dope but forget Ali was absolutely pummelling Foreman on the inside. Foreman took monster shots and a big time beating. He was in a dark place after losing to Ali, confidence in himself was shot and he admits it took him years to recover. Why would anyone think a rematch would have been any better for Foreman ?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Alx. View Post
                Ali knocked Foreman out
                Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
                He had already KO'd him
                Originally posted by NapalmKnuckles View Post
                You know a fighter is the shit when the worst thing somebody can say about him is that he didn't give Foreman a rematch after he knocked him out.
                Originally posted by whirlout View Post
                Ali basically took Foreman's heart and soul in that fight and endured tremendous amounts of punishment and went on to knock Foreman out despite all the odds against him.
                Originally posted by larryxxx... View Post
                Why do you have to rematch someone you knocked out?
                Originally posted by fredhopple View Post
                Beating Big George Foreman once was enough for Ali especially via the stunning KO. Let Foreman whine all he wants as Foreman was the one KO'd and ridiculed.
                Originally posted by ~BoZz~ View Post
                he smashed foreman the end..
                No he didn't.

                Foreman was not knocked out. He got tired from beating on Ali and fell from fatigue more than anything. Plus Foreman made the 10 count but the bias ref stopped the fight prematurely.

                Foreman knows he would have knocked Ali out stiff and says it here:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlB-...tu.be&t=12m29s


                Here Ali admits "The Greatest" branding was all a sham. Get it through your thick skulls! Ali was a charlatan.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlB-...utu.be&t=4m19s


                Ali was no king. Who was he? Or better yet who is he? He's dead and gone, pushing up daisies. He died just like all of us.
                Last edited by punchr; 06-18-2016, 04:22 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by pivotandroll View Post
                  he is being an *******, but the way you right off his racism as bad moments of judgement with crooked figures islam is insane. You would never write off some white boxer spending time with the kkk like that.

                  but yeah frasier>ali.....or did you idiots miss the first fight?

                  The saddest part about ali is that he could have been better. What a fighter though.
                  i would give a white person supporting the kkk at that time a pass, if the blacks were lynching them and telling them they couldnt **** in certain restrooms or eat at certain restaurants

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by punchr View Post
                    No he didn't.

                    Foreman was not knocked out. He got tired from beating on Ali and fell from fatigue more than anything. Plus Foreman made the 10 count but the bias ref stopped the fight prematurely.

                    Foreman knows he would have knocked Ali out stiff.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlB-...tu.be&t=12m29s


                    Here Ali admits "The Greatest" branding was all a sham.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlB-...utu.be&t=4m19s


                    Ali was no king. Who was he? Or better yet who is he? He's dead and gone, pushing up daisies. He died just like all of us.
                    are you Spoon23?? seriously this is beyond stupid

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by larryxxx... View Post
                      i would give a white person supporting the kkk at that time a pass, if the blacks were lynching them and telling them they couldnt **** in certain restrooms or eat at certain restaurants
                      Okay fair enough, I respect that.

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