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Old 12-09-2019, 11:15 PM #31
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What this really boils down to is your willingness to believe that UKAD would participate in some kind of cover up or obfuscation to protect Dillian...
To me, that begs the question ... if UKAD wanted to cover up a problematic test result, why did they formally report that result to the BBBoC, and put Whyte in the position of needing clearance from the NADP to avoid a provisional suspension?
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:51 AM #32
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All that B sample crap really underlined how incredibly stupid these people are.
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Old 12-10-2019, 01:28 AM #33
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You hire the right law firm. If you want to beat a failed drug test you hire the right law firm. UKAD doesn't have the resources. Big bank take little bank. Simple as that.
Is Morgan Sports law "big bank"? I had never heard of them until this thread, they were only set up in 2013. I think they're just a specialised law firm who know their business, their founder doesn't look that old.

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Old 12-10-2019, 01:52 AM #34
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It's like giving Whyte a license to use whatever illegal substance he wants. When ever he fails they will get him off again.
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:24 AM #35
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To me, that begs the question ... if UKAD wanted to cover up a problematic test result, why did they formally report that result to the BBBoC, and put Whyte in the position of needing clearance from the NADP to avoid a provisional suspension?
You know how this works, man. If someone wants to construct a hypothetical scenario in which UKAD have covered up then it's aways possible. Once you're accepted the proviso that they're dishonest then any number of explanations for the circumstance you've brought up could be made.

If I was to play Devil's advocate I'd say that UKAD must have been leaned on after reporting the result to the BBBoC and Hearn, and I'd then progress to maybe say that it's evidence that Hearn's a crook and UKAD are spineless corruptable degenerates... you know how this ish goes..
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Like I say though, this ain't really a subject that's gonna yield to logical argument at this point, once someone's decided that UKAD are lying there ain't much you can do with it, cos even if they were to, say, release Dillian's actual urinary concentrations you'll always then get folk claiming they were falsified or somesuch.

Problem is then if we ain't gonna trust UKAD, why trust any other testing organisation? Why trust VADA, who have even less oversight? If we ain't gonna trust BBBoC why trust NAC or any of the other US commissions? That ish just devolves into speculative nonsense.

Personally I'm happy to keep an open mind... I don't trust any fucker anyway, but the dude's been cleared by the bodies responsible for clearing him and the reasons provided are rational and coherent even if there's still questions unanswered and the full facts haven't been released. That's sufficient for me to put a line under it even if it won't put the objections of any doubters to bed. If further evidence comes to light at some future time that points to UKAD corruption then I'll revisit it then, but for now more discussion's kinda pointless.
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Old 12-10-2019, 05:35 AM #36
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To me, that begs the question ... if UKAD wanted to cover up a problematic test result, why did they formally report that result to the BBBoC, and put Whyte in the position of needing clearance from the NADP to avoid a provisional suspension?
We honestly do not know whether Dillian Whyte cheated or not, so I am not going to blame him. The whole thing looks shady though.

IF (again emphasizing IF) he did, your argument doesn't really hold. UKAD may not want to cover up for Whyte under normal circumstances, but that changes if they were being threatened with a lawsuit. After all, it was confidential information that got leaked and most firms would like to have an out-of-court settlement. UKAD gains nothing if Whyte loses such as case but looses a lot if Whyte wins..so why take the risk with no gains?
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Old 12-10-2019, 07:00 AM #37
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It's like giving Whyte a license to use whatever illegal substance he wants. When ever he fails they will get him off again.
Well then everyone can use them then. They'll be incredibly successful.
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Old 12-10-2019, 08:32 AM #38
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Is Morgan Sports law "big bank"? I had never heard of them until this thread, they were only set up in 2013. I think they're just a specialised law firm who know their business, their founder doesn't look that old.
The bank comes from the people who retain them.
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Old 12-10-2019, 10:27 AM #39
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Well we guess the only logical explanation must be that he is off steroids!
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Get a grip Dunn. Don't fade into the PBC delusion.
I didn't post or imply he was. I asked a serious question to see what you each thought.

When he tested positive, he looked great. His next fight he looks like a fat tub of slop. You can't just pretend that isn't the case.
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Old 12-10-2019, 10:31 AM #40
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I didn't post or imply he was. I asked a serious question to see what you each thought.

When he tested positive, he looked great. His next fight he looks like a fat tub of slop. You can't just pretend that isn't the case.
So you are implying it
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Hahaha.

Bro, put your mind into the story and do some basic research before commenting that type of stuff.

He was cleared. Just accept it.
fyi here's a picture of DW a the Rivas weigh in:

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He weighed in career heavy for that fight.
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