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to those who are asking, wtf is wrong with that clown... ?

nationalism

the dumb kid simply cannot admit that almighty America lied to him

I got no problem admitting that my shlthead government lies to me all the time

but oh no... the good ol US of A would NEVER lie to him
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John H. Mauldin has a bachelor's degree in engineering physics (Cornell University, master's in physics (Purdue University), and Ph.D. in science education (University of Texas). He has four books published in science and technology covering mathematical graphics in Perspective Design (1985; second edition now being prepared), physics in Particles in Nature (1986), solar energy in Sunspaces (1987), and optics in Light, Lasers, and Optics (1988). He has taught physics and engineering at several colleges and universities, done education research and development at MIT and University of Texas, and worked at NASA in electronic power engineering on an early phase of the Voyager missions.


Cosmic particles are dangerous, come from all sides, and require at least 2 meters of solid shielding all around living organisms.

Solar (or star) flares of protons, an occasional and severe hazard on the way out of and into planetary systems, can give doses of hundreds to thousands of REM over a few hours at the distance of Earth [b-Lorr]. Such does are fatal and millions of times greater than the permitted dose. Death is likely after 500 REMs in any short time.

The Apollo capsule was not even 1/10 meter thick, the Van Allen Belts have over 100 REM/hour, so the astronauts could not have survived going to the Moon.
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Prof. James McCanney, M.S. Physics
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"Obviously, they didn't go to the Moon. The United States did not go to the Moon.
The Russians knew it all along. I thought at the time we did, but I have since learned, we absolutely did not."

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Most if not all of the moon flights manned or unmanned were tracked by astronomers and foreign countries. When Apollo 13 had a misfunction they had to get an observatory to spot the exact position of the craft in order to assist the reentry.
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Prof. James McCanney, M.S. Physics
Professor at Cornell University
"Obviously, they didn't go to the Moon. The United States did not go to the Moon.
The Russians knew it all along. I thought at the time we did, but I have since learned, we absolutely did not."

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The guy is selling a calendar made out of rocks because the powers that be don't want the public to be able to tell time in the event of a catastrophy. LOL. You should buy one it would match the rocks in your head.

"EMERGENCY SURVIVAL RE-CALENDAR PORTABLE SUN-STAR CLOCK … $39.95 [..] HOW ABOUT A NATURAL DISASTER THAT LEAVES YOU STRANDED FOR MONTHS AT A TIME … or in the ultimate case … a planet X (large comet) passage causing a pole shift … within days or week's you would begin to lose track of the calendar and time [..] after the last pole shift ALL societies wrestled for hundreds of years to re-establish the calendars … modern science denies that any of this happened … this helps to keep the masses ignorant and under the control the world "leaders" who do not want you to know how to keep track of time [..] my new product release is a device that is very inexpensive but allows anyone to quickly re-establish and maintain the calendar and time [..] such as a pole shift where our earth axis along with our orbit were permanently altered … the only people who will be independent and survive will be those who have the ability to re-calendar and rebuild the time … the cost is just $39.95 [..] you can practice now with our current solar orbit and conditions."

Just to revive this subject. The last pole shift happened 380,000 years ago. Nobody was struggling to re-establish their calendars. The earliest known calendars were in the bronze age which began roughly 6000 years ago.

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to those who are asking, wtf is wrong with that clown... ?

nationalism

the dumb kid simply cannot admit that almighty America lied to him

I got no problem admitting that my shlthead government lies to me all the time

but oh no... the good ol US of A would NEVER lie to him
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Im not American.
And i dont live in America.


Ok, well, we unfortunately cant carry on forever.
All you can do is copy and paste chunks of text that you dont understand from this cheap conspiracy website...

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or now post youtube videos.

No arguments of your own.
No quotes to back up your claims.

And that website contradicts the other website you were copy and pasting from...

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But you dont understand why lead wouldnt be protection from the van allen belts.
Because you cant grasp the basics of radiation.
Because you are devoted to your conspiracy beliefs.
Because they make you feel smarter than other people.

You have to call people fkwits and hillbillys to make yourself feel bigger.

Its an obvious insecurity.

Good day to you sir.
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My tip is to post more gifs and smilies.
It definitely makes you seem more intelligent.
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I posted PLENTY of quotes... you lying shlthead loooool

and the MANY quotes that I posted... were from credible astronauts and scientists, some of whom worked for NASA... you ignorant hillbilly


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"The Van Allen belts are a collection of charged particles, gathered in place by Earth’s magnetic field. They can wax and wane in response to incoming energy from the sun, sometimes swelling up enough to expose satellites in low-Earth orbit to damaging radiation. The discovery of the drain that acts as a barrier within the belts was made using NASA’s Van Allen Probes, launched in August 2012 to study the region."

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New Twists in Earth's Radiation Belts
"But any of the many hundreds of spacecraft operating in Earth orbits today can be damaged by space radiation if the circumstances are right. In 2003, 46 of the 70 satellite failures reported that year occurred during a geomagnetic storm in October."
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"In January 2016, scientists revealed that the shape of the belts depends on what type of electron is being studied. This means the two belts are much more complex; depending on what is being observed, they can be a single belt, two separate belts or just an outer belt (with no inner belt at all.)

The researchers found that the inner belt — the smaller belt in the classic picture of the belts — is much larger than the outer belt when observing electrons with low energies, while the outer belt is larger when observing electrons at higher energies," NASA wrote at the time. "At the very highest energies, the inner belt structure is missing completely. So, depending on what one focuses on, the radiation belts can appear to have very different structures simultaneously."

What is still poorly understood, however, is what happens when particles from the sun hit the belts during a geomagnetic storm. It is known that the number of electrons in the belts changes, either decreasing or increasing depending on the situation. Also, the belts eventually return to their normal shape after the storm passes. NASA said it isn't clear what kind of storm will cause a specific type of belt configuration. Also, the agency noted, any previous observations were done only with electrons at a few energy levels. More work needs to be done.
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"The Van Allen Probes are specially hardened to withstand the intense radioactive environment of the belts.

We study radiation belts because they pose a hazard to spacecraft and astronauts," said David Sibeck, the Van Allen Probes mission scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, in an August 2016 NASA statement. "If you knew how bad the radiation could get, you would build a better spacecraft to accommodate that.
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"When he was put on the spot, the study's co-principal investigator John Lane, an applications scientist with ASRC Aerospace Corp. at Kennedy Space Center (KSC)... "I'm not sure how they managed to be so lucky. I don't think you can count on luck on short missions for the future or trips to the planets."

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Image AS11-40-5922 from Apollo 11, taken from the moon's surface.
Direct source from nasa.gov (Archive)
Open the above image in a new window and make sure it is expanded to its full size.

"Upon close inspection one might notice that the Lunar Lander... is in truth made out of cardboard paper, a few old curtain rods, a roll of roofing paper, some floodlight holders, gold foil, and lots and lots of scotch tape to hold it all together on the hostile environment of the moon's surface.

Anyone who thinks that this landed and launched from the surface of the moon... is sadly deluded.

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"Different shielding techniques are therefore used dependent on the application and the type and energy of the radiation.

Cosmic radiation is not a common concern on Earth, as the Earth's atmosphere absorbs it and the magnetosphere acts as a shield, but it poses a significant problem for satellites and astronauts, especially while passing through the Van Allen Belt or while completely outside the protective regions of the Earth's magnetosphere. Frequent fliers may be at a slightly higher risk because of the decreased absorption from thinner atmosphere. Cosmic radiation is extremely high energy, and is very penetrating."

In some cases, improper shielding can actually make the situation worse, when the radiation interacts with the shielding material and creates secondary radiation that absorbs in the organisms more readily. For example, although high atomic number materials are very effective in shielding photons, using them to shield beta particles may cause higher radiation exposure due to the production of bremsstrahlung x-rays, and hence low atomic number materials are recommended. Also, using material with a high neutron activation cross section to shield neutrons will result in the shielding material itself becoming radioactive and hence more dangerous than if it were not present.
"

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"The solar wind has low-energy particles of about one hundred electron volts per particle, so each could possibly ionize a few dozen atoms. This is not of great concern. What makes this radiation problematic is that it has the highest flux of the three sources, about 10 billion of these particles per square centimeter each second. Each particle itself cannot do so much damage, but there are so many of them that the added damage is of definite concern.

Solar flares have between 1000 particles per square centimeter per second with energies in the ten millions of electron volts, up to particle fluxes of 1 per square centimeter per second with up to 100 million electron volts. Each of these higher energy particles has enough energy to ionize of the order of 10 million atoms. Even so, scientists have figured out pretty good ways to deal with this type of radiation, which consists of putting matter between the radiation and the instruments and people
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"Scientists and engineers have been working for decades on how to protect humans and equipment from radiation. It remains one of the hardest problems to solve. Some promoters of space travel feel that allowing an increased risk of cancer is not an issue, but this attitude is unusual. Even airlines are concerned about the increased radiation doses from travel, and prefer travel routes with lower radiation (away from the pole regions).9 Most space agencies are very concerned with the risks of radiation, and the effect radiation might have on an astronaut’s ability to function on an extended mission.

Molecules with low atomic numbers and rich in hydrogen tend to absorb secondary neutrons better and hence are better for GCR in which a number of secondary reactions will occur. However, GCR or its secondary radiation can get past mass shielding, unless the shielding is prohibitively thick – surpassing mass restrictions on a reasonable space vehicle. Continued advances in material science are trying to address this problem."
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Well, that is a great question. The plan that NASA has is to build a rocket called SLS (Space Launch System) which is a heavy-lift rocket, it is something that is much bigger than what we have today and it will be able to launch the Orion capsule with humans on board as well as landers or other components to destinations beyond earth orbit.

“Right now we can only fly in Earth orbit, that is the farthest that we can go. This new system that we are building is going to allow us to go beyond and hopefully take humans into the solar system to explore, so the Moon, Mars, asteroids, there are a lot of destinations that we could go to and we’re building these building block components in order to allow us to do that eventually.


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John H. Mauldin has a bachelor's degree in engineering physics (Cornell University, master's in physics (Purdue University), and Ph.D. in science education (University of Texas). He has four books published in science and technology covering mathematical graphics in Perspective Design (1985; second edition now being prepared), physics in Particles in Nature (1986), solar energy in Sunspaces (1987), and optics in Light, Lasers, and Optics (1988). He has taught physics and engineering at several colleges and universities, done education research and development at MIT and University of Texas, and worked at NASA in electronic power engineering on an early phase of the Voyager missions.


"Cosmic particles are dangerous, come from all sides, and require at least 2 meters of solid shielding all around living organisms.

Solar (or star) flares of protons, an occasional and severe hazard on the way out of and into planetary systems, can give doses of hundreds to thousands of REM over a few hours at the distance of Earth [b-Lorr]. Such does are fatal and millions of times greater than the permitted dose. Death is likely after 500 REMs in any short time.

The Apollo capsule was not even 1/10 meter thick, the Van Allen Belts have over 100 REM/hour, so the astronauts could not have survived going to the Moon.
"

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Prof. James McCanney, M.S. Physics
Professor at Cornell University
"Obviously, they didn't go to the Moon. The United States did not go to the Moon.
The Russians knew it all along. I thought at the time we did, but I have since learned, we absolutely did not.
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But you dont understand why lead wouldnt be protection from the van allen belts.



kid, just how fkn dumb are you... ?

I answered that question with definitive proof/quotes/videos

first... you denied that astronauts require radiation shielding

then... you stated that " paper " is adequate shielding

now... you insist that they used lead shielding

can you see any lead shielding on this thing, you fkn moron ?

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"The solar wind has low-energy particles of about one hundred electron volts per particle, so each could possibly ionize a few dozen atoms. This is not of great concern. What makes this radiation problematic is that it has the highest flux of the three sources, about 10 billion of these particles per square centimeter each second. Each particle itself cannot do so much damage, but there are so many of them that the added damage is of definite concern.

Solar flares have between 1000 particles per square centimeter per second with energies in the ten millions of electron volts, up to particle fluxes of 1 per square centimeter per second with up to 100 million electron volts. Each of these higher energy particles has enough energy to ionize of the order of 10 million atoms. Even so, scientists have figured out pretty good ways to deal with this type of radiation, which consists of putting matter between the radiation and the instruments and people


Scientists and engineers have been working for decades on how to protect humans and equipment from radiation. It remains one of the hardest problems to solve. Some promoters of space travel feel that allowing an increased risk of cancer is not an issue, but this attitude is unusual. Even airlines are concerned about the increased radiation doses from travel, and prefer travel routes with lower radiation (away from the pole regions).9 Most space agencies are very concerned with the risks of radiation, and the effect radiation might have on an astronaut’s ability to function on an extended mission.

Molecules with low atomic numbers and rich in hydrogen tend to absorb secondary neutrons better and hence are better for GCR in which a number of secondary reactions will occur. However, GCR or its secondary radiation can get past mass shielding, unless the shielding is prohibitively thick – surpassing mass restrictions on a reasonable space vehicle. Continued advances in material science are trying to address this problem."
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Well, that is a great question. The plan that NASA has is to build a rocket called SLS (Space Launch System) which is a heavy-lift rocket, it is something that is much bigger than what we have today and it will be able to launch the Orion capsule with humans on board as well as landers or other components to destinations beyond earth orbit.

“Right now we can only fly in Earth orbit, that is the farthest that we can go. This new system that we are building is going to allow us to go beyond and hopefully take humans into the solar system to explore, so the Moon, Mars, asteroids, there are a lot of destinations that we could go to and we’re building these building block components in order to allow us to do that eventually.


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btw, why did you ignore my question about NASA... ?

I asked you multiple times...

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how is it even slightly possible....

NASA have THOUSANDS of TOP scientists, the best in the world

did you hear me... ???

I said.... THOUSANDS, of scientists... THE BEST, in the world

they have a MASSIVE organisation

they have DECADES of experience

they (supposedly) already have a successful moon landing on their resume'

they have spent TRILLIONS of US taxpayer dollars since 1969

ooops, I mean... hundreds of billions... of US taxpayer dollars

so...

how is it even slightly possible that Elon Musk, who has never made 1 red cent out of Tesla... and who had (get this...)... NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER until 2004 loooool... could teach NASA, anything at all about space exploration???

HOW IS THAT EVEN SLIGHTLY POSSIBLE... ???
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NASA should be BY FAR the preeminent authority on that subject... they should be DECADES ahead of Musk, and they should be DECADES ahead of everyone else in the world... but apparently, they are not...

... whats up with that ? LMAO

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"the solar wind has low-energy particles of about one hundred electron volts per particle, so each could possibly ionize a few dozen atoms. This is not of great concern. What makes this radiation problematic is that it has the highest flux of the three sources, about 10 billion of these particles per square centimeter each second. each particle itself cannot do so much damage, but there are so many of them that the added damage is of definite concern.

solar flares have between 1000 particles per square centimeter per second with energies in the ten millions of electron volts, up to particle fluxes of 1 per square centimeter per second with up to 100 million electron volts. Each of these higher energy particles has enough energy to ionize of the order of 10 million atoms. Even so, scientists have figured out pretty good ways to deal with this type of radiation, which consists of putting matter between the radiation and the instruments and people


scientists and engineers have been working for decades on how to protect humans and equipment from radiation. It remains one of the hardest problems to solve. some promoters of space travel feel that allowing an increased risk of cancer is not an issue, but this attitude is unusual. even airlines are concerned about the increased radiation doses from travel, and prefer travel routes with lower radiation (away from the pole regions).9 most space agencies are very concerned with the risks of radiation, and the effect radiation might have on an astronaut’s ability to function on an extended mission.

molecules with low atomic numbers and rich in hydrogen tend to absorb secondary neutrons better and hence are better for gcr in which a number of secondary reactions will occur. However, gcr or its secondary radiation can get past mass shielding, unless the shielding is prohibitively thick – surpassing mass restrictions on a reasonable space vehicle. Continued advances in material science are trying to address this problem."
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well, that is a great question. The plan that nasa has is to build a rocket called sls (space launch system) which is a heavy-lift rocket, it is something that is much bigger than what we have today and it will be able to launch the orion capsule with humans on board as well as landers or other components to destinations beyond earth orbit.

“right now we can only fly in earth orbit, that is the farthest that we can go. This new system that we are building is going to allow us to go beyond and hopefully take humans into the solar system to explore, so the moon, mars, asteroids, there are a lot of destinations that we could go to and we’re building these building block components in order to allow us to do that eventually.


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btw, the Van Allen belt is only one of the MANY moon-landing impossibilities

and the Van Allen belt is NOT the most compelling either

lets talk about all of the OBVIOUSLY fake photos

the alternate light sources, projecting inexplicable shadows LMAO

that is it for me, right there... the fact that they faked the photos throws that whole fantastical story right out the window

the same scenery, appearing on multiple missions in different locations

the reflection of a stagehand appearing in a astronauts visor

no stars appearing in the studio... ooops, I mean... atmosphere

the total lack of a impact crater

we all know that x-ray radiation can damage film, so...

HOW DID THEY PROTECT THE CAMERA/FILM FROM RADIATION EXPOSURE?

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there are also many other improbabilities/impossibilities
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