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Old 12-08-2019, 01:49 PM #51
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:52 PM #52
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Joshua might be able to outjab, outrun, and outclinch Wilder you mean.

Because I didn't see anything yesterday that would lead me to think he could "whoop his ass."
I mean, most fighters make Wilder look bad for most of the fight. That's his thing. He looks bad, but he'll land his power at some point and that's usually enough. Joshua most certainly would make Wilder look awful for 99% of the fight. He's far more skilled. I have little doubt that Joshua would dominate Wilder.

Problem is, Wilder's going to land. And he'll land enough that Joshua is going to need to survive some tough spots. And I don't think he will. Eventually Wilder will hurt and finish him, I think.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:56 PM #53
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I mean, most fighters make Wilder look bad for most of the fight. That's his thing. He looks bad, but he'll land his power at some point and that's usually enough. Joshua most certainly would make Wilder look awful for 99% of the fight. He's far more skilled. I have little doubt that Joshua would dominate Wilder.

Problem is, Wilder's going to land. And he'll land enough that Joshua is going to need to survive some tough spots. And I don't think he will. Eventually Wilder will hurt and finish him, I think.
I think the major difference between Joshua making Wilder look bad, and his other opponents, is that Joshua can really punch. Not as hard as Wilder, but hard enough.

Wilder might not have 36 minutes to get his shot in this one.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:57 PM #54
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Joshua would be dumb to fight either of these long ranged. Longer, outfighers in a boxing match. He’d likely go back to his usual style. Beat the brakes off Fury and he should pressure and try to beat Wilder on the inside.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:57 PM #55
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Joshua beats Wilder 12 -0 in rounds.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:58 PM #56
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I think the major difference between Joshua making Wilder look bad, and his other opponents, is that Joshua can really punch. Not as hard as Wilder, but hard enough.

Wilder might not have 36 minutes to get his shot in this one.
Very true, though I put more stock in Wilder's ability to tough through being hurt and survive than Joshua's. Though I admit he was impressive in doing so against Wlad.

It's a fight that is somewhat hard to imagine going the distance.
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Nah, AJ would do the exact opposite in a Wilder fight.
Wilder lacks inside game. He wants distance.
AJ would come to him all night till Deontay gets Ortized.
Wilder won't even have time to aim his only weapon.

Easy fight for AJ.

Wilder will again demand retirement money for this fight.

It will never happen.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:47 PM #58
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So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?

I'm just trying to understand your position.
My position is many things. First of all you have to put the fight into perspective. He immediate rematched a guy who not only beat him, but embarrassed him. Recently.

In that fight, and in the fight against Povetkin, we've seen that AJ has trouble. Small guys, fast hands. That's his kryptonite. AJ has a pretty straight forward defense usually, he slips and catches. That's a lot harder to do when the punches are coming from 6 inches below usual.

Against tall fighters we've seen him fight a totally different style, and usually beat the crap out of the people he fights.. Klitschko, Breazele, Molina, Martin etc. They've all ended up on the deck hard.

Would anyone really argue that Ruiz is better than Klitschko? No of course not. It's the style.

Similarly we've seen Fury look terrible against some fighters, and Wilder look terrible against some fighters.

AJ looked good (in the rematch), but he did look gun shy for sure. I can't say for certain whether he'll be gun shy against Wilder, but of course he won't look to go in there with his chin in the air.

But Wilder's style is much better suited for AJs, and I think everyone can see that. I don't think Ruiz II should leave anyone with a comparison at all.

But I do think he'll avoid Wilder and won't fight him before he's 100% back to his best mentally. And that's at least 3 more fights imo which will be Pulev, Usyk and Whyte.

Then he'll look to fight the winner of Fury vs Wilder.
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I doubt Hearn will let Joshua any where near Fury or Wilder now.
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Wilder has the reach and speed advantage if he tries to fight from a distance he will be doing him a favor

AJ will need to get his balls back before that fight he will need to fight him inside
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