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Old 12-08-2019, 12:55 PM #11
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Good on him. Until/unless he faces Wilder, because he won't be able to fight like that against Wilder. And that style will be ineffective against Fury. He'll have to engage on either one of those guys.

If he fights Usyk, Usyk picks him apart - and I'm not even an Usyk fan.

People are overrating what they saw. Joshua didn't look good, Ruiz looked terrible. Not sure why that's not clear to certain NSB'ers.
Never said he looked good... Never thought Klitschko looked good either... Good recipe for success though... That version of Joshua has the skillset to run at the end of his Jab against anyone, and win... Won't make me more of a fan ...
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:14 PM #12
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Never said he looked good... Never thought Klitschko looked good either... Good recipe for success though... That version of Joshua has the skillset to run at the end of his Jab against anyone, and win... Won't make me more of a fan ...
Luis Ortiz has arguably the best, sharpest, most precise jab in the HW division. Wilder has walked through him twice.

Joshua's jab is a range finder and always has been. He couldn't use that strategy against Grabomir, either; he got dropped his troubles. He had to use his power and just go to work.

If a guy is your same height you're not going to keep them on the end of your jab for very long - eventually they're going to catch you especially when you have reach like Wilder does. He can only use that strategy against shorter guys with limited reach capability and there aren't many stubby HW's anymore.

Joshua's ONLY shot on Wilder is to take him out with power, early, with a shot Wilder doesn't see coming, which is how Sconiers was able to put him down and how Ortiz was able to wobble him so badly.
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:17 PM #13
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Missed the point, bro. Ruiz wanted AJ to engage, AJ did not at any point accommodate.
why would he after what happened last fight?
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:17 PM #14
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I feel like a lot of people on here don't even appreciate boxing.

If you are moving around the ring, but throwing more and landing more than your opponent, that is called boxing (very well).

If you are moving around the ring, and throwing/landing about the same as your opponent, that is called boxing.

If you are moving around the ring and getting outlanded and outhrown by big margins, you could call that running.

Watch the fight again and let us know which one of those AJ did...I don't even really like the guy but he put in a really good performance last night...but some people just like to hate no matter what, so here we are.
revelated is a well established ******. A misguided MMA fan who has no understanding of what's actually happening.

If the fight was BORING blame the guy who COULDN'T MAKE IT EXCITING.

Hell Ruiz even said he partied and undertrained yet OP wants Joshua to stand and trade? That's not boxing, that's fighting. They are different things that can sometimes be the same, but at the highest level are usually NOT the same...for good reason
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:27 PM #15
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revelated is a well established ******. A misguided MMA fan who has no understanding of what's actually happening.

If the fight was BORING blame the guy who COULDN'T MAKE IT EXCITING.

Hell Ruiz even said he partied and undertrained yet OP wants Joshua to stand and trade? That's not boxing, that's fighting. They are different things that can sometimes be the same, but at the highest level are usually NOT the same...for good reason
well said...definitely agree with the bold
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:30 PM #16
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I donít criticize Joshua for employing literally the only tactic he could win with, brilliant! Every time Joshua traded with Ruiz he lost that exchange.

I mean Joshua has been listening to and dismissing advice for years to train differently, shed some muscle and train for endurance. Ruiz delivered that same message earlier this year and that message was received.
Yep sometimes you have to learn the hard way
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Old 12-08-2019, 01:34 PM #17
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Joshua landed quite a few decent right hands. Not sure why people are so biased to decide he ran? He didnít at all, there was an argument he won all 12 rounds. He outboxed throughout
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:40 PM #18
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revelated is a well established ******. A misguided MMA fan who has no understanding of what's actually happening.

If the fight was BORING blame the guy who COULDN'T MAKE IT EXCITING.

Hell Ruiz even said he partied and undertrained yet OP wants Joshua to stand and trade? That's not boxing, that's fighting. They are different things that can sometimes be the same, but at the highest level are usually NOT the same...for good reason
Spoken like someone who can't read. Clearly.

Done.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:43 PM #19
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What say you, NSB? Did Joshua run...? Or no?
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:23 PM #20
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What happened is a lot of people were looking forward to joshua getting stopped again, instead he won near on every round making it look easy and now people are crying.
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