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Old 12-07-2019, 07:46 PM #1271
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Ruiz just said out of his own mouth, he didnít prepare like he should have. He didnít listen to his team during training and trained himself. I didnít get that part. They didnít have the right preparation. Seems like it went to his head and he wasnít hungry enough. So give Joshua credit and stop making excuses for Ruiz. Joshua fought the fight he needed to, to keep his career moving forward. Itís boxing. No one that risks their life inside the ring needs to fight how fans want them to or how the other fighter wants them to.
Exactly! Fighting the way your opponent wants would be a bone-headed choice.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:46 PM #1272
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Joshua is not beating wilder. Not in this dimension anyway.
I don't think Wilder can spell 280 pounds. AJ outran a fat man, he had to is the problem.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:49 PM #1273
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Full credit to aj, done what he had to do to get the win. Ruiz can go back to munching on snickers now his career is done
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:49 PM #1274
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Tyson Fury has had TWO fights at elite level. Arguably Dillian Whyte has a better resume than Tyson Fury 'Out of the big 3, Fury has had the least fights at elite level'.

Who did Tyson Fury fight in his last fight? Actions do speak louder than words, Fury's camp need to understand this etc
Furys toughest fight to date has probably been Wilder and he wasnt even fit for that.

I still rank the way he got up up from that 12th round knockdown by Wilder the best bit of sport Ive seen in my life which will probably never be surpassed .

Whatever you say about Fury he is a quality fighter and in my view probably the best pure boxer in the heavyweight division.Hence theres a reason why he's made millions from the sport eg the last contract he signed was over 50 million for a certain number of fights.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:52 PM #1275
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Well explained. The question is
how hard is Fury punching? I have the feeling AJ will beat him. With Wilder not so sure! On points easy win for AJ but Wilder's power makes it very dangerous for him.
And thats what makes this sport so engrossing and in my view the best sport there is .Its nature at its most raw eg man on man
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:54 PM #1276
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Joshua is the new world boxing bicycle heavy weight champion....he can not call himself a champion....coward, you had to show that you have heart....running you never gonna beat Fury, and Wilder ia going to knock you out....running like a chicken....
He boxed. Nice sideways movement, never gassed out, and his punches were effective. Not just scoring taps, but stinging jabs that snapped by Ruiz's head back over and over again. And a vicious right in the first, the impact of which sliced his brow open. People are saying Wlad mark 2, but I think the fluidity of the movement was closer to Ali than Wlad.

It is not cowardly to enter in ring and face an opponent that beat the sense out of you in your last fight. It is not cowardly to have the self-honesty to appraise your own flaws and come up with a strategy that corrects your mistakes. It is not cowardly to outbox your opponent completely.

And say what you want about running or being on a bicycle, but Joshua really could have completely avoided exchanging from the 10th onward and still won on points. But repeatedly chose to engage and win those final rounds as well.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:58 PM #1277
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He boxed. Nice sideways movement, never gassed out, and his punches were effective. Not just scoring taps, but stinging jabs that snapped by Ruiz's head back over and over again. And a vicious right in the first, the impact of which sliced his brow open. People are saying Wlad mark 2, but I think the fluidity of the movement was closer to Ali than Wlad.

It is not cowardly to enter in ring and face an opponent that beat the sense out of you in your last fight. It is not cowardly to have the self-honesty to appraise your own flaws and come up with a strategy that corrects your mistakes. It is not cowardly to outbox your opponent completely.

And say what you want about running or being on a bicycle, but Joshua really could have completely avoided exchanging from the 10th onward and still won on points. But repeatedly chose to engage and win those final rounds as well.
Well said. Not my favourite type of fight to watch but in the end AJ did what he had to do and showed courage by not taking a bunch of cupcake fights in between to rebuild his confidence. Full credit to AJ, from a big Wilder fan.

Now I just hope we can get to Wilder-AJ before too long. I understand AJ will probably have to satisfy at least one mandatory before that happens, but let's pray it can be arranged before 2020 concludes.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:59 PM #1278
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Ruiz obviously got lucky the first time around. In his defence, if the other guy is smarter, bigger, taller, faster, longer, what can he do?

Even the fat 20st Ruiz would beat AJ in the 1st fight. AJ canít slug with fast short heavies

Mike Tyson would do him inside a round
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:03 PM #1279
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shut yo ***** as up! its 1, 1,

lets see if hoe ass wants the 3rd? im betting not.
& Iím betting that youíre wearing your motherís knickers. Hoe ass? What a complete gimp. Go watch Lewis vs Tua, (not that youíre likely to be familiar with either of those names you basement dwelling half wit), which is exactly what Joshua replicated tonight. Ruiz is yesterdayís man.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:05 PM #1280
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Thought it was a good performance from Joshua, better footwork and jab than I imagined he’d produce. He was disciplined and stuck to a strategy which was good. He probably the best 3 or 4 power punches of the fight too, particularly the right that opened the cut up.

Every time he allowed Ruiz to get in close though he looked vulnerable, I don’t think Joshua will be rushing into a trilogy fight. For whatever reason Ruiz can hurt AJ, and AJ does not seem to be able to make a dent in Ruiz, so box and move was the only sensible strategy.

I think Wilder and Fury still best Joshua, and a fit Whyte causes him problems. But the likely next fights are Pulev mando (Cardiff) potentially the Usyk v Chisora / Parker winner, and then a trip to China for Zhang. I don’t see Fury or Wilder fights happening for Joshua until at least 2022 if at all.
Agree with your assessment in the first paragraph (edited to add: and second!). I think Wilder clearly could knock AJ out. Not convinced Fury bests Joshua. (insert style makes fights cliche). If Wallin connects with Fury like he did, Joshua probably smashes his face in.

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