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Old 12-07-2019, 07:29 PM #11
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Of the two I only fancy Wilder beating AJ, Wilder could beat any man who ever boxed as his big shot is a game changer.

I keep saying this, Iíve seen Fury all the way through his career and he isnít what he is made out to be, he is big and awkward.
I completely agree. All he has on him is a big mouth.

I expect Wilder to put him down in the rematch
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:33 PM #12
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Of the two I only fancy Wilder beating AJ, Wilder could beat any man who ever boxed as his big shot is a game changer.

I keep saying this, Iíve seen Fury all the way through his career and he isnít what he is made out to be, he is big and awkward.
He has boxing instincts. He moves very well, though not necessarily fluidly. Awkward movement is such that it creates no pattern to time.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:35 PM #13
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Wilder didn't fear getting hurt by Fury then reality struck home

If you think 260 poound 6'8" Fury can't put you in your place you're dead wrong

Fury could rock Joshua no problem. He rocked Wlad and Wilder. Wlad literally poo'd his pants and didn't throw out of fear against him!

AJ would get slapped up by Fury and KO'd by Wilder.
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He has boxing instincts. He moves very well, though not necessarily fluidly. Awkward movement is such that it creates no pattern to time.

Iím not saying Fury is ****, he is obviously very good at what he does. But he has plodded against so many mediocre fighters I donít know how he can call anyone
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Wilder didn't fear getting hurt by Fury then reality struck home

If you think 260 poound 6'8" Fury can't put you in your place you're dead wrong

Fury could rock Joshua no problem. He rocked Wlad and Wilder. Wlad literally poo'd his pants and didn't throw out of fear against him!

AJ would get slapped up by Fury and KO'd by Wilder.

AJ will be mid 240ís for Fury, who was the last top heavy Fury has put down, never mind KOíd
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Iíll add..... Joshua looks much better against taller opponents
Well keep in mind that despite Ruiz being on everyone's s h it list for tonight's effort, he is a live dog, if he decides to take his training seriously. He is the lone pressure fighter. Pressure fighters MAKE the punchers and the boxers look bad when they are put off balance, etc. So there is no shame in taking the proper route to beat Ruiz with the jab and making him follow instead of cut the ring off.

You might find down the line that Fury and Wilder have some problems with Ruiz as well. My point is that Ruiz is not a boxer puncher with fast hands that happens to be short...He is a guy that at his best applies constant pressure on his opponent, using his fast hands once he has them unbalanced. Also, Fury and Wilder are tall guys, but very different types of such. Joshua might conceviably have some additional problems depending on how he adjusts to each opponent and how strong his beard actually is.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:43 PM #17
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He has boxing instincts. He moves very well, though not necessarily fluidly. Awkward movement is such that it creates no pattern to time.
Wilder moves back in straight lines and throws the same predictable 1 2 all night that's why even the poor competitors win the rounds.

That's why Fury was making him miss pretty much all night

That right hand is just devestatimg and against the short guys he keeps his distance until it lands.

Andy Ruiz gave AJ trouble because when he's hurt he throws a hundred punched all in a second, Wilder just shells up and tries to survive when he's hurt and isn't capable of throwing these combos.

Wilder wins if he pressures AJ, if he waits AJ will get him and finish him.
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Wilder moves back in straight lines and throws the same predictable 1 2 all night that's why even the poor competitors win the rounds.

That's why Fury was making him miss pretty much all night

That right hand is just devestatimg and against the short guys he keeps his distance until it lands.

Andy Ruiz gave AJ trouble because when he's hurt he throws a hundred punched all in a second, Wilder just shells up and tries to survive when he's hurt and isn't capable of throwing these combos.

Wilder wins if he pressures AJ, if he waits AJ will get him and finish him.

The AJ v Wilder is always going to be 50/50
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AJ will be mid 240ís for Fury, who was the last top heavy Fury has put down, never mind KOíd

It's hardly a secret that Fury doesn't hit that hard for his weight, he is not a knockout artist

But he is the best 6'8" 260 pound to have ever lived because there has never been a man his size to move and box the way he does

and that's more than enough to beat an AJ type fighter.

easy peasy.
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AJ has two choices with Wilder:

1. Go for a decision and box him from the outside all night from the outside where wilder had a reach advantage and avoid that right hand which he will be at the tip where wilder gets full leverage.

2. Fight mid range and go for the knock out which leaves him open to a counter.


Both strategies have considerable risk of getting KO'd. This aint a plodding fat t-rex armed Ruiz where all AJ has to do is focus for 12 and stick to a game plan. ANY game plan for Wilder carries a big risk of being knocked out.
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