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Should Police be allowed to use Drones?
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Originally posted by DreamerUSA View PostWell we will disagree on who we trust. I just look at the track records of government abuse of power versus civilian and the body count, and the attacks on liberty aren't even comparable.
And liberty is kinda a bs thing lets be real. You can either be free or have rules. Any rules you make are gonna creep across someones liberty & we've accepted that already so liberty is always a losing battle unless you want true freedom & true freedom is gonna have way more crazy sh^t going on, but it'll be liberty at its finest as you fiend for yourself when the sh^t hits the fan.
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I'm kind of reaching my saturation point with surveillance every where. It's bad enough LE has installed cameras on street corners that take a snapshot of your car rolling through a yellow light and you get a ticket in the mail. I have to wonder to what end these drones would be used to generate more revenue for jay-walking, spitting on the sidewalk, littering, or what might be perceived as a petty crime. Once we all have chips installed in our necks it's only a matter of time before the drones scan our chip and you get your $100 fine in the mail for scratching your ass in public.
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Just for grins Israel makes an emp directional pulse cannon.
special Direction antenna could drop that drone without much collateral damage.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/how-to-fo...ly-accessible/
The things discussed in this post and article are just for intellectual purposes only.
I do not condone or recommend anyone try to build or aquire such a device
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostWhat do you think?
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/l...200500642.html
Los Angeles police will test drones despite privacy concerns
Los Angeles police will test drones despite privacy concerns
American police have certainly used drones before, but not on this scale. The Los Angeles Police Commission has voted in favor of letting the LAPD fly drones in a year-long pilot program, making it the largest US police department to ever rely on the robotic aircraft. The force will use the drones for aerial searches, recon in tense situations (think: standoffs) and other tasks where officers would otherwise be at risk. The machines could save lives, according to the LAPD, but there were numerous concessions made to address privacy concerns -- and some people still aren't convinced these limits will prevent abuse.
The trial's rules restrict flights to SWAT team members in dangerous situations, such as when there's a heavily armed suspect on the loose. Drones will also be allowed for search and rescue missions. Every flight has to be approved, documented and reviewed, and there's a ban on facial recognition software. The Police Commission will receive and publish quarterly reports to track the drones' performance.
Critics, however, are worried that what the police say they'll do and what they'll actually do are two different things. As we've seen in the past, the LAPD isn't always forthright in its use of technology. Activists and lawyers are concerned that the police will be tempted to use drones for questionable surveillance (such as monitoring neighborhoods or tracking protesters), or that they'll outfit the drones with weapons. The LAPD actually obtained two drones in 2014, but scrapped plans to fly them due to precisely these kinds of public objections -- people aren't necessarily going to warm to the idea just because there are a few guidelines in place.
I might make one of these.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TWeJsaCiGQ0
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostThere are millions of violent crimes happening every year in the US I'd imagine. A small percentage of them have anything to do with authority figures in the government, military or police.
And liberty is kinda a bs thing lets be real. You can either be free or have rules. Any rules you make are gonna creep across someones liberty & we've accepted that already so liberty is always a losing battle unless you want true freedom & true freedom is gonna have way more crazy sh^t going on, but it'll be liberty at its finest as you fiend for yourself when the sh^t hits the fan.
Liberty is far from BS or free from the absence of rules. Liberty is not a synonym for anarchy. Laws are meant to protect rights or at a minimum give you an avenue to at least seek justice should your rights be violated. The basic premise is my rights end where your's begin and vice versa.
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Originally posted by DreamerUSA View PostThe basic premise is my rights end where your's begin and vice versa.
And there are plenty of laws on the books that are trespassing into our liberty via drug laws & the selling of sex & numerous other things. There is no real liberty now. We have fake liberty & fake liberty is just becoming a smaller space & will become smaller.
To me liberty is as bs a term in reality as the often used term "god given rights". There are no god given rights. We have the rights we have decided to give ourselves & sometimes that doesn't even matter & those rights are abused or not even given.
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