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Originally posted by Deletrious View PostThe biggest benefit to not doing Saunders is potentially getting the Canelo fight.
So why would you cancel Saunders but not even tell Oscar about it? You wouldn't.
If Canelo's promoter didn't even know about it, that just indicates the first report is probably wrong.
they don't give a fk about Canelo, because they won't be fighting him in September either
as you just pointed out, killing their June fight had nothing to do with Canelo..... just a few days ago Loeffler released a statement insisting that they will proceed in June because it will not affect the Canelo fight one bit
cancelling that June fight had nothing to do with Canelo
if Saunders had not agreed to ALL terms, making it impossible for them to run off to Phukistan to fight yet another no-hoper..... they would be fighting that no-hoper in Kazakhy just like they originally planned
they will not fight a threat until they break Hopkins record
they cancelled that fight because it has an element of risk heading forward
months back I predicted.....
1) the Saunders fight will die - most likely with a "we can't make him fight us" excuse, like always..... and then they will fight another no-hoper in Kazakhy
2) no Canelo in Sep, fight another no-hoper
3) one more no-hoper to break Hopkins record
4) then they will cash out with Canelo in late 2018
looks like I was right, except that Warren agreeing to all terms killed their Kazakhy no-hoper
they have been doing this for FOUR YEARS, why on earth would they change tack now? my prediction is not some mystic prophecy, I can just see how they roll
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Originally posted by Robi13 View PostYes their was and now that ggg said his p.ussy is injured Oscar now says this is encouraging news because it leaves the door open for ggg and Canelo in September even though ggg is all about legacy and belts and not about money although Canelo has no belt lmao. Ggg and his team and most his fans are lame as f.uck
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Now that Oscar knows that GGG is a good lil b1tch, they can proceed. Now, all Good B1tch has to do is agree to a flat fee (which will obviously be less than the previous offer because of GGG's recent PPV flop), with no PPV upside, and we'll have a fight.
On the other hand. GGG should get all the Kazakhstan PPV money. Just to make sure its a fair deal.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostThe June BJS fight falling part isn't because Loeffler is backing down to Oscar telling him if he goes through Sept fight is off the table. It's simply the money in kaza phuk stan doesn't exist. It's fake money just like 35m for Pacman to fight khan in Dubai. The fact that Oscar found out from the media that the June fight is off makes perfect sense because it's NOT about Golden Boy. Loeffler and K2 giving BS excuses as damage control for why this fight fell apart. Loeffler made promises to a lot of people based on fake money and now can't deliver.
I don't believe any of that
this has nothing to do with money suddenly disappearing
this has everything to do with their preferred opponent suddenly disappearing
they were never going to fight Saunders in Kazakhy
when Warren agreed to ALL terms, he cornered them..... making it impossible for Team Golovkin to brush him off with yet another "we can't make them fight us" excuse..... and, surprise surprise, no fight
if they could fight yet another no-hoper in Kazakhy, they would be preparing to do just that, right now
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostYup and Loeffler came out after that defiant saying he was still looking to make the June fight. Which is why Oscar is now shocked to find out today that Loeffler has scrapped those June plans. Either Loeffler is just Oscar's bytch and did a 180 after saying he wouldn't back down OR Loeffler's fight that he had a year to plan for failed to come up with the money and wasted Saunders/Warren's time. This is about K2's incompetence in making fights then anything to do with Golden Boy LMAO
they are not incompetent at all
they have done a fantastic job with Golovkin
he has this MASSIVE reputation, millions of dollars, and has taken little/no risk
that is called doing a fkn fantastic job
they wanted to flip-off Saunders and select a TBA, just like they have done on a number of previous occasions
Warren fk'd up their plans, because he is smart.
there is only one reason why a veteran promoter would agree to "all terms"..... he simply called their bluff
he thinks his man can win and the risk is worth it
Warren knows this game at least as well as they do
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Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop View PostInteresting how Oscar didn't mention the "injury." You'd think the interviewer would've brought it up...
" soreness "..... is something that affects every single fighter who just participated in a competitive fight
one of the more ridiculous excuses to come out of that camp
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Originally posted by DadeCounty305 View PostSome of you cats on here needs to get out your feelings. At the end of the day, it's always about the paper along with legacy. These men has been fighting since they were kids. It's PRIZE fighting now. Not one of you are sitting in on these business calls between these two camps. Let these men conduct their business and we'll get the fight. I understand some of the bs would upset some ppl but you have to admit, it's been GBP doing. Canelo did his part too. Not fighting GGG and fighting Cotto(Business deal), Gave up his belt to GGG. Paid GGG to step aside. Called GGG in the ring after the Khan fight and said his famous words(LOL). Then he fights Smith and then they offer GGG a flat rate of 15M. Man keep it 1000, that was away to negotiate out of the fight or to prolong the fight. They did say September 2017... Let's all pray it gets done.
then why did Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refuse to negotiate on weight with lil old faded 153lb Cotto?
Cotto would be Golovkin's biggest payday BY FAR, and the best name on his resume
again..... they TOTALLY REFUSED to negotiate with Cotto
this game is all about risk/reward
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the fact that Loeffler never even informed Hoya that they have cancelled Golovkin's June fight, proves that decision had nothing to do with Canelo
if they could fight another no-hoper in Kazakhy, they would be doing just that
they want Hopkins record waaaaay more than anything else
it is Golovkin's only possible legacy " achievement "
and Golovkin himself is 100% the captain of his own ship
anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool
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2 promoters who are full of ****. loughler doesnt get called out as much cause he gives unprecedented access to boxing writers but anyone who cant see they are both full of it are blind
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