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Old 11-25-2012, 05:32 AM #1
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without the head butts,elbows ,holding and hitting plus low blows, Berto would have won the fight with ease. The ref was clearly inexperinced. Robert even threw multiple Punches after the final bell. The reff should have took control of the fight in round one. Robert did what he had to do, im not blaming him at all. I blame the ref. Robert also thumbed Berto on purpose. If it was a stand alone foul, maybe it would b considered. An accident, but when you add it to punching after the bell, low blowing punches, holding and hitting, head butting and throwing elbows, it becomes very clear, Robert cheated his way to victoy. I know some of hou are blind to the rules of boxing and will label me with negative names but everything that i stated in this thred is fact.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:34 AM #2
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without the head butts,elbows ,holding and hitting plus low blows, Berto would have won the fight with ease. The ref was clearly inexperinced. Robert even threw multiple Punches after the final bell. The reff should have took control of the fight in round one. Robert did what he had to do, im not blaming him at all. I blame the ref. Robert also thumbed Berto on purpose. If it was a stand alone foul, maybe it would b considered. An accident, but when you add it to punching after the bell, low blowing punches, holding and hitting, head butting and throwing elbows, it becomes very clear, Robert cheated his way to victoy. I know some of hou are blind to the rules of boxing and will label me with negative names but everything that i stated in this thred is fact.
But when Andre Ward and Hopkins do it, it's called 'rough tactical inside fighting' right.

I knew Berto was gonna get beaten down. I was so confident I even made a thread and betted HUGE money on it.

Trout is next...
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:35 AM #3
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But when Andre Ward and Hopkins do it, it's called 'rough tactical inside fighting' right.

I knew Berto was gonna get beaten down. I was so confident I even made a thread and betted HUGE money on it.

Trout is next...
when Alexander, Ward and Hopkins do it it's called being crafty and using "veteran tricks" but when Molina and Guerrero do it they're boring cheaters
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But when Andre Ward and Hopkins do it, it's called 'rough tactical inside fighting' right.

I knew Berto was gonna get beaten down. I was so confident I even made a thread and betted HUGE money on it.

Trout is next...
No its called cheating, reguardless who does it. Again im not blaming Robert, he did what he had to do. I blame that sorry ass ref. He did nothing but walk around in the ring and make threats to berto.
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No its called cheating, reguardless who does it. Again im not blaming Robert, he did what he had to do. I blame that sorry ass ref. He did nothing but walk around in the ring and make threats to berto.
Are saying Berto lost because the ref didn't tell a "lightweight" to stop manhandleing him?

i find this hysterical.

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No its called cheating, reguardless who does it. Again im not blaming Robert, he did what he had to do. I blame that sorry ass ref. He did nothing but walk around in the ring and make threats to berto.
No, its not cheating. You guys really should learn the rules before spouting ****e. The reason he didn't break it up early on with all the supposed 'holding' is because Berto was holding one arm of Guerrero, thus is the other is free you are 100% allowed to punch away. If Berto had his arm wrapped outside Guerrero's then it's pretty clear who was doing the holding.

Berto was holding, and trying to use that to get the ref to break it up to give him the advantage. Because he would only hold one arm though, the ref correctly let them keep fighting with Guerrero punching away with his free arm. Berto sucks inside though, and tried to tie up in all his fights to 1: get a quick rest and 2: get the ref to break it up so he can get back outside without having to fight inside. He has always initiated clinches. It's part of his style. Guerrero very smartly used it against him, probably from watching plenty of the Collazo tape, and din't allow the ref to get in and break by punching with his free arm.

As to the head butts, elbows, low blows etc, it happens in a rough and tumble fight. Berto landed a fair few hefty rabbit punches too, and it was Berto initiating most of the holding, hence why Guerrero was punching and Berto was doing nothing but hoping the ref would break them.

If Berto could have won it easy any way, he would have. That's like saying "If Guerrero had let Berto punch him in the face without trying to defend and without punching back, then Berto would have won easy bro!"

It's that simple. If Berto would have won some other way, without Guerrero fighting back, then he would have, but guess what, it's a fight and there's two guys fighting and one guy doesn't always fight the way his opponent wants him to to get any easy win. Guerrero won because he's more versatile. Simple as that.

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without the head butts,elbows ,holding and hitting plus low blows, Berto would have won the fight with ease. The ref was clearly inexperinced. Robert even threw multiple Punches after the final bell. The reff should have took control of the fight in round one. Robert did what he had to do, im not blaming him at all. I blame the ref. Robert also thumbed Berto on purpose. If it was a stand alone foul, maybe it would b considered. An accident, but when you add it to punching after the bell, low blowing punches, holding and hitting, head butting and throwing elbows, it becomes very clear, Robert cheated his way to victoy. I know some of hou are blind to the rules of boxing and will label me with negative names but everything that i stated in this thred is fact.
LOL @ cheated his way to victory. Who got busted for steroids?
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