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  • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
    It’s completely legal (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...timate/601165/)

    Stick to your nutty conspiracy theories
    "Conspiracy Theories" Using CIA talking points now? Love exposing you shills. You are a sheep being led to the slaughter, keep believing the lies.

    And you put up a post from the Atlantic, who wants government control over movie narratives.

    https://fair.org/home/atlantic-calls-on-hollywood-to-produce-more-government-propaganda/

    The same outfit that accuses Trump supporters of burning down black churches....that rag?

    FAKE NEWS: 4 Websites That Rushed to Blame Trump Supporters for Mississippi Church Arson

    Following the November arson attack against a black church in Mississippi, several mainstream media outlets attempted to paint the crime as a racially-motivated attack by a Donald Trump supporter.

    Despite lacking a large amount of evidence for their claims, which were largely based on “Vote Trump” grafitti painted onto to the church and the n-word found shortly before, the outlets continuously pushed the narrative of a Trump-induced hate crime.

    Little did they know that the attack was actually allegedly perpetrated by Andrew McClinton, a black man who was a member of the church he torched. It has also since been revealed that McClinton is also allegedly the perpetrator of the graffiti found on the church.





    Since the mainstream media, along with social networks such as Facebook are concerned with the rise of “fake news,” here is a sample of the outlets which pushed this false narrative without the facts.

    “A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump” – The Atlantic

    The Atlantic, a news outlet which has frequently covered the topic of “fake news,” could quite possibly be the contender for one of the most false headlines this year with “A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump.”

    The Atlantic reported that the arson attack was being investigated as a “hate crime,” tried to link the attack to rising racism, and claimed that the motivation was for someone to leave “a calling card about politics.”

    Since their claims, a fire marshal has declared that the attack was unlikely to do with politics, and the site has been forced to issue an update on their article. However, there is still no mention to the fact that the perpetrator was neither a Donald Trump supporter nor a white man, despite largely trying to emphasize those two points originally.

    “Burning a black church is a political act” – Vox

    Vox Media, the same news outlet which has officially banned employees from “mansplaining,” falsely labelled popular Trump supporters as anti-Semites, and whose popular left-wing commentator Ezra Klein was seen by the Clinton Campaign as an attack dog to “hold journalists accountable,” pulled out all the stops in their attempt to make the Mississippi church arson attack seem like a racist crime from the right.

    “The message spray-painted on the burned bricks is drawing attention to a history of racist violence that has been amplified over the course of the 2016 presidential campaign,” claimed Vox’s Victoria M. Massie in her piece. “Black churches have always been about more than spirituality. For generations, black churches have served as sources of refuge from and resistance to the racism pervading America’s Christian pulpits.”

    Adding that the “Threat of violent voter intimidation has become a cornerstone of the 2016 election,” and “Trump’s supporters are welcoming the confrontation,” Massie concluded by claiming that though a suspect was yet unidentified, “it’s still clear that this small church in Mississippi is the latest symbol of some of the country’s worst fears about the threats of violence looming over this year’s presidential election.”

    The article has not been updated following the recent revelation that the attack was not political.

    “Authorities Suspect Voter Intimidation in Burning, Vandalism of Mississippi Church” – Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)

    The SPLC, a self-proclaimed hate crime watchdog, posted the incident in their “hatewatch” section despite the lack of details surrounding the suspect and his motive.

    “A black church in the Mississippi Delta was burned and vandalized with pro-Trump graffiti in what law enforcement is now calling an attempt at voter intimidation,” wrote the SPLC in their filed case, though it was the comments section that really showed the dangerous effect of narrative manipulation in the mainstream media.

    The SPLC is the same group that features the American Family Association, Info Wars’ Alex Jones, and Breitbart contributors David Horowitz and Pamela Geller in their list of “extremists” alongside the Aryan Brotherhood, Black Panthers, and the Ku Klux Klan.

    This isn’t the SPLC’s first example of promoting fake news. It’s most recent failure was when it labeled Black Lives Matter-inspired assassinations of police officers and jihadist terrorist attacks as “radical-right terrorist plots.”

    “A Burned Down Black Church Shows President Trump Wouldn’t Condemn His Own Terrorists” – The Daily Beast

    “So these are stakes of this election: a potential president who would not even condemn in his own words terrorism done in his own name,” complained the Daily Beast’s Justin Glawe, despite Trump’s campaign issuing an empathetic statement on the attack.

    “The GOP presidential candidate, in characteristically spineless fashion, said then he ‘would never condone violence’ from his supporters. Our possible next president did not say, unequivocally, that he did not condone this specific act, because that wouldn’t fit into the dog whistle nature of his candidacy,” he continued.

    Glawe even went as far as to quote a member of the community who claimed that no one of their own could have performed the attack, so it must have been a racist Trump-supporter.

    The article now displays an editor’s note pointing to the recent news, making Glawe’s piece on how Trump wouldn’t condemn “his own terrorists” quite embarrassing.

    It should also be noted that The Daily Beast published another article on the attack, filing it into the “Deplorable” category— a reference to Hillary Clinton’s pre-election comments where she claimed Trump-supporters to be deplorable.

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/...-church-arson/



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    • Originally posted by GrandmasterWang View Post
      You can consider yourself corrected.

      I just criticise Trump when he does stupid and unethical **** which is unfortunately far more frequent than it should be.

      I am a realist and a rationalist. Both parties are largely garbage and I lean towards neither.
      Gotcha.

      I've noticed you seem quite open-minded for someone here who criticizes Trump, so I wondered where you coming from in terms of political philosophy.

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      • Autographed Art of the Deal Book, predicts Trump's Election 29 Years Earlier!!

        Book that Trump signed 'Future President' in 1987 tops online auction, outpricing autographs of FDR, Clinton, Carter: report

        https://www.foxnews.com/media/1987-t...d-books-report

        A copy of “Trump: The Art of the Deal” signed by the “Future President” in 1987 went for $1,500 at auction this week, more than books by other former presidents, including FDR and Harry Truman, according to a report.

        “Books signed by presidents are widely desired by presidential autograph collectors," Bill Panagopulos, president of Maryland-based Alexander Historical Auctions, told The Washington Examiner. “With our sale yesterday of a book signed by Donald Trump for $1,500, his books now far exceed those signed by his predecessors, including Harry Truman, Franklin Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, and especially Jimmy Carter, who has signed so many books, they are hard to sell for over $50.”

        TRUMP-KIM AUTOGRAPHED PIC CAN BE YOURS FOR $24G


        President Trump inscribed this copy of "Trump: The Art of the Deal" in 1987 with "Future President." (alexautographs.com)


        Donald Trump, Jr.'s "Triggered" (Courtesy of the author)

        Meanwhile, Donald Trump Jr.’s recently published book, “Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us,” has also been successful.

        "Triggered" topped the New York Times bestseller list the first week of November, helped along by the “Deplorables,” who the author thanked, and the Republican National Committee, which spent nearly $100,000 in bulk purchases, according to The New York Times.

        A Trump Jr. spokesperson defended the book’s bestseller status in a statement this week.

        “Don Jr. sold more books in his opening week than the number 2 and 3 nonfiction books on the New York Times list combined. You could erase all of the books sold through the RNC and that would still be a fact.”

        The RNC paid $94,800 to bookstore chain Books-A-Million for copies of the book a week before it was published, for "donor mementos," according to a Federal Election Commission filing, The Times reported.

        An RNC spokesperson told The Times the committee has made additional purchases of the book this month because it has been "hugely popular."

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        • CIAmarella Caught Lying on ICIG Complaint!

          BREAKING: Anti-Trump CIA ‘Whistleblower’ Ciaramella Panicked After Caught Lying on ICIG Complaint: Tried to Revamp Statement on Oct. 8 After He Was Caught on Oct. 2


          Barack Obama and Eric Ciaramella – screenshot obtained by the Washington Examiner

          A photo of CIA whistleleaker Eric Ciaramella shaking Barack Obama’s hand in the Oval Office was published on a close friend’s wedding site last year.

          The photo was obtained by the Washington Examiner and it again suggests Eric Ciaramella is a political hack with a partisan Trump-hating agenda.

          Eric Ciaramella is a 33-year-old CIA officer who was planted inside the White House by ex-CIA chief John Brennan to spy on Trump and thwart the Spygate investigation being conducted by US Attorney from Connecticut John Durham.

          Ciaramella was NOT on Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelensky, yet he filed a whistleblower complaint based on hearsay from a ‘source.’

          Vindman publicly testified Tuesday and crumbled under questioning from ranking member of the House Intel Committee Devin Nunes (R-CA) when asked about who he spoke to about Trump’s call with Zelensky.

          Eric Ciaramella is not a whistleblower. He is a CIA leaker and a far left political hack with an agenda to remove Trump from office.

          Now this…

          On October 8th Ciaramella approached the intelligence community to correct his statement after news broke on October 2nd that he approached his close friends in Adam Schiff’s office before he turned their whistlblower report. Ciaramella lied about meeting with the Schiff team before he turned in his complaint.

          On October 2nd news broke that Schiff and Ciarmella BOTH LIED about their communications before the complaint was filed. So on October 8th Ciaramella contacted the ICIG to correct his lies on his complaint.

          Catherine Herridge at CBS News reported:

          "The whistleblower acknowledged reaching out to the committee, but claimed that nothing substantial was discussed and that the staff member directed them to go through official channels, according to the “Memorandum of Investigative Activity,” provided to House and Senate Intelligence Committee leadership by intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) Michael Atkinson. The form is dated October 18 and documents the October 8 outreach by the whistleblower.

          Republicans have seized on the contact with Democratic committee staff to question the credibility of the whistleblower, while Democrats have downplayed the significance.

          According to the document, the whistleblower reported to the ICIG investigator that the committee staffer advised: “‘Do it right, hire a lawyer, and contact the ICIG.’ So that is what the COMPLAINANT did. At the time, COMPLAINANT did not even know what the ICIG was.”

          The whistleblower felt that “based on getting guidance on a procedural question, and that no substance of the actual disclosure was discussed, COMPLAINANT did not feel, based on the way the form question was worded, that it was necessary to check that box.”


          If Ciaramella’s name was Roger Stone he would be facing 50 years in prison for this lie.



          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/breaking-anti-trump-cia-whistleblower-ciaramella-panicked-after-caught-lying-on-icig-complaint-tried-to-revamp-statement-on-oct-8-after-he-was-caught-on-oct-2/

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          • Who changed, Lindsey or Joe? This was only 3 years ago

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            • CNN Getting Sued for Pushing Fake News Reports!!!

              BREAKING: Devin Nunes to Sue Daily Beast and CNN for Junk Report that He Traveled to Vienna to Meet with Secret Ukrainians

              https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/breaking-devin-nunes-to-sue-daily-beast-and-cnn-for-junk-report-that-he-traveled-to-vienna-to-meet-with-secret-ukrainians/

              We really do have the worst mainstream media.
              Pravda was bad… But NOTHING like today’s liberal US media.

              Rep. Devin Nunes intends to file lawsuits against CNN and The Daily Beast over junk reports that he flew to Vienna to meet with secret Ukrainians including fired prosecutor Viktor Shokin.

              Breitbart.com reported:



              "House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence ranking member Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) intends to file lawsuits against both CNN and the Daily Beast over fake hit pieces the outlets have published about him in recent days, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.

              Two pieces recently published in both outlets–one from Daily Beast earlier this week, and one from CNN published late Friday–alleged that the Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, who is now indicted on unrelated charges, helped Nunes with a variety of matters when digging into Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on behalf of Democrats.

              The Daily Beast story, from Betsy Swan (formerly Woodruff), alleges that Parnas helped Nunes set up a variety of meetings on Ukraine matters. The CNN story, from Vicky Ward, goes even further, alleging that Nunes arranged a secret trip to Vienna and met there with Victor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor that former Vice President Joe Biden pushed to have fired when Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, the natural gas company paying Biden’s son Hunter Biden $83,000 per month. It is unclear at this time how much of these reports are blatantly false, but most of each of them appear to be inaccurate, according to sources familiar with the matter.

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              • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                Who changed, Lindsey or Joe? This was only 3 years ago


                Originally posted by Q
                3612
                Time for Senator Graham, Chair of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, to Act
                Q
                !!mG7VJxZNCI
                20 Nov 2019 - 9:26:50 PM
                Chairman Graham, it's time.
                Senate was the target.
                Q
                https://saraacarter.com/graham-requests-full-transcripts-of-joe-bidens-calls-with-ukrainian-president/

                Graham requests full transcripts of Joe Biden’s calls with Ukrainian President

                By Staff Writer -November 21, 2019


                Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, (R-SC) confirmed in an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News that he is sending a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo requesting the transcripts of three phone calls the senator said then-Vice President Joe Biden had with then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.

                Graham said the phone calls coincided with the time frame in which a Ukrainian prosecutor, once praised for going after the head of natural gas company Burisma Holdings – a person Graham said was known as the “dirtiest guy in Ukraine” by one top American official – was fired.

                Burisma was the company on which Hunter Biden, the son of the 2020 Democratic candidate, sat on the board.

                “I want to know are there any transcripts or readouts of the phone calls between the vice president and the president of Ukraine in February [2016] after the raid on the gas company president’s house,” said Graham. “After this raid, Hunter Biden kicks in. Hunter Biden’s business partner meets with [then-Secretary of State] John Kerry, and Vice President Biden on three occasions makes a phone call to the president of Ukraine and goes over there in March and they fire the guy, and this is the same man that the ambassador wanted investigated in 2015.”

                Graham added he found it “odd” that instead of lauding the Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, for investigating the Burisma chairman, he was instead relieved of his duties.

                He said that in 2015, President Obama’s ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, said in a speech he wanted Shokin to be more forceful in his investigation of domestic corruption.

                “The one person he named as being a sleazebag was the president of Burisma,”
                Graham remarked.




                "CONSPIRACY THEORIES"
                Last edited by mathed; 11-23-2019, 11:17 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by mathed View Post
                    BREAKING: Devin Nunes to Sue Daily Beast and CNN for Junk Report that He Traveled to Vienna to Meet with Secret Ukrainians

                    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/breaking-devin-nunes-to-sue-daily-beast-and-cnn-for-junk-report-that-he-traveled-to-vienna-to-meet-with-secret-ukrainians/

                    We really do have the worst mainstream media.
                    Pravda was bad… But NOTHING like today’s liberal US media.

                    Rep. Devin Nunes intends to file lawsuits against CNN and The Daily Beast over junk reports that he flew to Vienna to meet with secret Ukrainians including fired prosecutor Viktor Shokin.

                    Breitbart.com reported:



                    "House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence ranking member Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) intends to file lawsuits against both CNN and the Daily Beast over fake hit pieces the outlets have published about him in recent days, Breitbart News has learned exclusively.

                    Two pieces recently published in both outlets–one from Daily Beast earlier this week, and one from CNN published late Friday–alleged that the Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, who is now indicted on unrelated charges, helped Nunes with a variety of matters when digging into Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on behalf of Democrats.

                    The Daily Beast story, from Betsy Swan (formerly Woodruff), alleges that Parnas helped Nunes set up a variety of meetings on Ukraine matters. The CNN story, from Vicky Ward, goes even further, alleging that Nunes arranged a secret trip to Vienna and met there with Victor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor that former Vice President Joe Biden pushed to have fired when Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, the natural gas company paying Biden’s son Hunter Biden $83,000 per month. It is unclear at this time how much of these reports are blatantly false, but most of each of them appear to be inaccurate, according to sources familiar with the matter.





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                    • Massive Obama Pay to Play Scandal About to Drop!

                      “Do You Honestly Think I’m Intimidated?” Giuliani Puts the DC Swamp on Notice, “I’m Going to Bring Out a Massive Pay-to-Play Scheme Under Obama Admin”



                      President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani put the DC swamp on notice on Saturday.

                      Giuliani reminded the DC swamp that he previously cleaned up mafia in New York and asked them, “Do you honestly think I’m intimidated?”


                      He also said he’s going to bring out a massive pay-to-play scheme under the Obama Administration that will “devastate the Democrat Party” — a scheme that Giuliani said the Washington press covered up for years!

                      RUDY GIULIANI: “I discovered a pattern of corruption that the Washington press covered up for years! I’m also going to bring out a massive pay-for-play scheme under the Obama Administration that will devastate the Democrat Party. Do you honestly think I’m intimidated?”










                      Rudy Giuliani has been exposing the Biden crime family’s involvement in Ukraine corruption, specifically their pay-to-play scheme with Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian natural gas company.

                      Joe Biden’s drug addict son Hunter was sitting on the board of Burisma Holdings and being paid by some accounts over $200,000 a month even though he had zero experience in the field.

                      Then-Vice President Joe Biden, who was tasked to oversee US dealings with Ukraine, threatened to withhold over $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine unless they fired Viktor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and Hunter.

                      Biden bragged about shaking down Ukraine and getting Mr. Shokin fired during a 2018 speech to the Council on Foreign Relations.

                      Ukrainian MP Andriy Derkach revealed last month that former Vice President Joe Biden was personally paid $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Holdings.

                      This is just the tip of the iceberg and the swamp hit back at Giuliani by putting him under criminal investigation for potential FARA violations and campaign finance violations.

                      But Rudy is fighting back and put the DC swamp on notice that he’s going into overdrive to expose more Obama-Biden pay-to-play corruption!

                      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/do-you-honestly-think-im-intimidated-giuliani-puts-the-dc-swamp-on-notice-im-going-to-bring-out-a-massive-pay-to-play-scheme-under-obama-admin/

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