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  • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
    You so dont know what youre talking about .

    Just a quick question what about the 22 tests before and after the Fluids IV ?

    You create a boogie man when the boogie man was shot dead way before.
    Do you think Pacquiao has been on peds? , so how has he passed more tests than fluid, as tests come out, so do ways to beat them, EPO HAS A TESTING WINDOW OF AROUND 24-48 HOURS JNR

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    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      If your contention is that the entire United States doping system is completely corrupt, a wide ranging conspiracy, consisting of hundreds, if not thousands of doping control officers, doctors, experts, staff, chemists, lab workers, etc, I don't know what to tell you. There's no evidence to support any of that, but I can't stop a crazy person from believing crazy things.

      If USADA was corrupt, why would they bring down Lance Armstrong, who was generating tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions, for the US government, when the US government funds USADA? Doesn't make any sense.

      If USADA was corrupt, why did Floyd even need a TUE? Why would he even need an IV if the IV was to mask? Why would he need to mask anything? If Floyd had USADA in his pocket, why would he have to worry about failing a test, and need to mask, and need TUE and all this other stuff? Doesn't make any sense.




      That's a lie. The TUE was reported to Top Rank and the commission, so Floyd and USADA were fully expecting for the TUE to become public at some point. Since IV was legal in Nevada, nobody thought it was a big deal. HBO turned it into a big deal by paying Hauser to write the smear campaign.
      Confidentiality clause jnr

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      • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
        These Manny empty heads dont realize 750ml wouldnt mask anything, Lance Armstrong was using 2000ml + regularly .

        750ml is less than a greyhound would get, Manny fanboy Floyd haters are such a dumb bunch.
        750ml is about 16 percent of his blood volume, you think that won't make a difference

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        • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          So he held his pee all day so that he could pee and then try to stop himself from peeing mid pee, making sure to pee less than 90ml, even though a small percentage of that is still plenty for a drug test.

          And he did all of this, even though he was supposedly bribing USADA, so he could then take an IV, pee again, to try to cheat a different test, so he could then apply for a TUE, and going through all of these hoops, even though he was supposedly bribing USADA and would have passed all of their tests anyway.

          Think about how ****ing stupid all of that is. If USADA was in Floyd's back pocket, why would he even need to provide a sample at all? And if he did provide a sample, why would it matter if it passed the test? And if it mattered if it passed the test, why would it matter if he was masking? And if it mattered if he was masking, why would he need a TUE? Why would any of this exist if he was bribing USADA? Wouldn't he just automatically pass all of the tests and not have to do any of this you ****ing moron?
          How would he explain away a PED , he has already had adverse findings, when pacquaio had his test results subpoenaed, He was very quick to throw mountains of money to settle out of court. As for not testing, there is a paper trail and all samples are kept frozen so that is not an option. So answer me why USADA cut WADA out via the contract that was signed

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          • Originally posted by New England View Post
            here's the thing:

            this is a fighter who claims to cut no weight. wasn't sick, didn't show any medical justification for the use of an IV. in cases of mild even to moderate dehydration the most effective method for rehydration is to drink fluids. this is well studied.


            so how does a fighter who claims to cut zero weight require 3/4 of a liter of saline and vitamins?

            the main reason these transfusions are "illegal," and require what is essentially a doctor's note, is not for performance enhancing, but to stop athletes from using the IV's to mask PED use and flush them out of the system to pass a drug test.


            at the very least what happened, the commision's handling of it, and the hysterical 180 they took to all of a sudden defend floyd mayweather, was highly suspicious.


            do i suspect floyd of PED use particularly in that fight, given the circumstances? of course. FFS the guy got caught taking an illegal IV in exactly the manner used by lance armstrong and others to mask their PED use and pass drug tests. and again, he wasn't sick, wasn't dehydrated according to any thing they've been able to produce.


            at the very least you've got egg on your face and look like a goddamn child if you accuse pacquiao of ducking floyd for years and years becasue of PED use and then you don't make a f#cking sound when this happens.
            Exactly, It is so obvious Floyd cheated. IF you are a rational boxing fan seeing all the tell tale signs of what Floyd did with those IVs against Manny. That's mute and academic. That alone shows his win against Manny is a dud. In any sport cheating is an automatic DQ. It only shows how empty Floyd's win is, and not to mention why he calls for a rematch with Pacquiao and like a used car salesman, Floyd takes back in what he says of fear of having to fight Pac in a a fair game scenario. Fear of a real fight with no IVs scares him, after-all he knows an injured Pacquiao was too much for him with all those IVs in his system he still had to run and hug for 12 rounds against a busted right shoulder Pacquiao.

            And that is why.. as the days, years pass-by, Floyd's fake win will resonate and only taint his career for the obvious reason. He didn't really win against Manny.




            Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight "

            LINK:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.89dc0b6bea1b






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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Yawn. Put it on a sign and bring it to Floyd’s hof induction ceremony.

              Also bring the video of you and your friends at the party watching the fight. I bet it will be hilarious to watch you being forced to face the reality of who the better man was.

              Did you cry? What’s it like having your hero emasculated like that in front of you?
              Induction for what? The cherrypicker's Hall Of Fame?

              You got your TMT pom poms fluffed up for the big occasion?

              Is that when he's going to announce a rematch with the Japanese kickboxer?

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              • Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
                Your article says Pac used drugs as a teenager in the Philippines. If Mayweather had any proof at all that Pac used drugs as a boxer, he would have produced it instead of settling the suit, paying Pac and making a public apology.
                Also it's interesting that FM settled the suit after Pac's lawyers subpoenaed Floyd and UASDA for production of all documents pertaining to the PEDS testing of FM for 3 fights where the lawyers had heard Floyd's "A" sample had tested positive. FM settled and drug testing results were never produced.
                Point is he was a professional boxer as a teenager..... and didnt start out as a champion.

                Can't deny that.

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                • Originally posted by Deontay Wilder View Post
                  Why not give respect to Floyd for all the hard work he's done? When you achieve something in your own life, you wouldn't want to be insulted, so put out that same energy towards others.
                  Floyd did this to himself. He got caught with a needle sticking in his arm.. Floyd will do everything to have an advantage before the fight..

                  Floyd wanted a fair fight and fair fight for floyd means that all of his demands (gloves, ring, referee, judges, testing agency, etc..) should be accepted or there will be no fight... That's fair for floyd..

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                  • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
                    He pummeled another b1tch on may 2, 2015 in front of his children too!
                    He almost choke pac with his hugging techniques...

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                    • I think floyd masking of PEDS was more dangerous than margarito handwraps...

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