Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua-Usyk Will Be A Massive Fight One Day, Not Now

[New England]

Stop ranting like a baby. You want to fight the champ, you come to the champs back yard you chicken.

The unified champ is ready for any body that is willing and available to sign the contract not some bird legs doing promo on social media like an up coming artiste.

the fight makes a lot more money in las vegas. the biggest fights in the world are almost always held there. there is a reason for that. it's the highest concentration of five star hotels in the world. the casinos do 10X what the fight does over the course of the week.

hearn knows all of this. he's not willing to take the fight in the united states for the most money. he is increasingly looking like he's going to hide behind "dazone" even though joshua is actually a sky PPV fighter and makes most of his tv money there! very few people watch joshua on da zone. if he expects wilder to come to da zone it's because he expects wilder to be the one bringing in american TV money! it isn't joshua! not yet anyway, check out his ratings on showtime if you don't believe me. really. go check them out.


so who is being unreasonable, the guy who wants to fight for the most money and have the biggest fight in the world where it should be, las vegas, nevada? or the guy who wants to offer 15 million US flat and take the fight for less money in his backyard. for god knows whatever reason .

this is prizefighting. surely you understand that there are ulterior motives when hearn, the guy who ultimately decides what joshua does, says "let's both make less money or there is no fight at all."

surely you f#cking get that, right? i mean really, you get why that looks like a duck? "we both take less money or there is no fight."

ultimately boxing is about money. hearn is not willing to risk the asset he's got that can sell out stadiums for the next 3-5 years. joshua isn't afraid of anybody. he does not choose who he fights. his only likely recourse within his contract is would literally be to sit out and fight nobody, wilder or bust, or buy out a contract. hearn knows he can make a hell of a lot more money in the interim and that the fight will be there. in the interim they will both benefit from the publicity of a prospective fight with each other.

both bob arum and al haymon made hundreds of millions doing this with pacquiao and mayweather. the fight was there 6 years down the road! and they made all the money in the f#cking world!

do i think they will fight? of course they'll fight. but it won't be soon. eddie hearn has showed his hand, and you're dishonest if you disagree with anything i've said.

[HURTFEELINGS]

Stop hyperventilating.
You do know that Hearn sent another offer to Wilder's team, with everything (% split and 2-way rematch) they claimed as reasons for not accepting the 1st offer though at the same breath they claimed they accepted the 1st offer. So which was it?

What was that #? From someone who knows so much about this offer........

[DuckAdonis]

I think Eddie likes Joshua to improve a little more first...what happens if Joshua can't land that 1 shot like he couldn't vs Parker ? Usyk Has good movement, better than Parker. But I doubt he would win on the scorecards. He would still make AJ look bad tho

[pillowfists98]

Usyk's manager already said he'll need a couple fights before he faces Joshua. This is common sense.

[New England]

eddie hearn fanboys are some of the most pathetic people on the internet. they are shameless. they literally don't want the wilder fight. you can hear it in their voices. they'd rather have eddie "win."

[Laligalaliga]

the fight makes a lot more money in las vegas. the biggest fights in the world are almost always held there. there is a reason for that. it's the highest concentration of five star hotels in the world. the casinos do 10X what the fight does over the course of the week.

hearn knows all of this. he's not willing to take the fight in the united states for the most money. he is increasingly looking like he's going to hide behind "dazone" even though joshua is actually a sky PPV fighter and makes most of his tv money there! very few people watch joshua on da zone. if he expects wilder to come to da zone it's because he expects wilder to be the one bringing in american TV money! it isn't joshua! not yet anyway, check out his ratings on showtime if you don't believe me. really. go check them out.


so who is being unreasonable, the guy who wants to fight for the most money and have the biggest fight in the world where it should be, las vegas, nevada? or the guy who wants to offer 15 million US flat and take the fight for less money in his backyard. for god knows whatever reason .

this is prizefighting. surely you understand that there are ulterior motives when hearn, the guy who ultimately decides what joshua does, says "let's both make less money or there is no fight at all."

surely you f#cking get that, right? i mean really, you get why that looks like a duck? "we both take less money or there is no fight."

ultimately boxing is about money. hearn is not willing to risk the asset he's got that can sell out stadiums for the next 3-5 years. joshua isn't afraid of anybody. he does not choose who he fights. his only likely recourse within his contract is would literally be to sit out and fight nobody, wilder or bust, or buy out a contract. hearn knows he can make a hell of a lot more money in the interim and that the fight will be there. in the interim they will both benefit from the publicity of a prospective fight with each other.

both bob arum and al haymon made hundreds of millions doing this with pacquiao and mayweather. the fight was there 6 years down the road! and they made all the money in the f#cking world!

do i think they will fight? of course they'll fight. but it won't be soon. eddie hearn has showed his hand, and you're dishonest if you disagree with anything i've said.

Everything you wrote is acknowledged but am sorry to burst you, HW no longer reside in Vegas. HW resides in the UK so every other factors are factored into making the fight in the UK.

The unified champ is the A side and therefore decides where to fight. Wilder is nothing but a challenger. Whenever hez ready for the fight, the contract is on his table then we roll.

[New England]

Everything you wrote is acknowledged but am sorry to burst you, HW no longer reside in Vegas. HW resides in the UK so every other factors are factored into making the fight in the UK.

The unified champ is the A side and therefore decides where to fight. Wilder is nothing but a challenger. Whenever hez ready for the fight, the contract is on his table then we roll.

dude joshua - klitschko did less at the gate than hopkins - calzaghe. you just don't know what you're talking about when you say "HW resides in the UK." i am sorry. fights in las vegas generate more money. this fight will be HUGE in vegas. truly huge. it won't make 50% over there what it would with american PPV money, a las vegas site fee, and a las vegas gate. they pay you to fight at the casino FFS! ringside seats for mayweather - pacquiao were $100,000 on secondary markets at their peak. there's a neighboring state, california, with a bigger GDP than your entire country! there is a scale here that you're clearly not getting.


wilder is not going to make that much less money to fight in somebody else's backyard. hearn is being coy with a means of pushing the fight off. he's had a slightly different angle each time. notice that? fight dillian white first. 12 million. pay me 50 million. oh, you will? fight has to be in the UK. 15 million to wilder with no date set. nah we gotta fight povetkin. come to da zone. you see a pattern? every single one of these things is unreasonable. this is the biggest fight in boxing and wilder is not going to take a 12 or a 15 million dollar guarantee. he's not going to sign with da zone. he does not have to fight dillian white to prove a damn thing!

it is what it is, you guys are all dishonest men and you're letting eddie hearn push you around so you can show solidarity for a brit. i used to admire UK boxing fans. i really did. i thoguht it looked like a hell of a time, and i wanted to go over there for a big fight. now i'm ashamed of most of you. i really am. your behavior is shameful. you're enabling eddie hearn to push off this fight.

and you f#cking know it! you know it! you guys aren't dumb! it's sad to see.

[Straightener]

dude joshua - klitschko did less at the gate than hopkins - calzaghe. you just don't know what you're talking about when you say "HW resides in the UK." i am sorry. fights in las vegas generate more money. this fight will be HUGE in vegas. truly huge. it won't make 50% over there what it would with american PPV money, a las vegas site fee, and a las vegas gate. they pay you to fight at the casino FFS! ringside seats for mayweather - pacquiao were $100,000 on secondary markets at their peak. there's a neighboring state, california, with a bigger GDP than your entire country! there is a scale here that you're clearly not getting.


wilder is not going to make that much less money to fight in somebody else's backyard. hearn is being coy with a means of pushing the fight off. he's had a slightly different angle each time. notice that? fight dillian white first. 12 million. pay me 50 million. oh, you will? fight has to be in the UK. 15 million to wilder with no date set. nah we gotta fight povetkin. come to da zone. you see a pattern? every single one of these things is unreasonable. this is the biggest fight in boxing and wilder is not going to take a 12 or a 15 million dollar guarantee. he's not going to sign with da zone. he does not have to fight dillian white to prove a damn thing!

it is what it is, you guys are all dishonest men and you're letting eddie hearn push you around so you can show solidarity for a brit. i used to admire UK boxing fans. i really did. i thoguht it looked like a hell of a time, and i wanted to go over there for a big fight. now i'm ashamed of most of you. i really am. your behavior is shameful. you're enabling eddie hearn to push off this fight.

and you f#cking know it! you know it! you guys aren't dumb! it's sad to see.

I think your just getting emotional that boxing is a dieing sport in the states

It’s ok though you can rely on us brits to keep the sport going until it sells again ..... just chill and watch the boxing

There’s some great fights being made and your wasting your energy being a whiney little b**ch

[Laligalaliga]

the fight makes a lot more money in las vegas. the biggest fights in the world are almost always held there. there is a reason for that. it's the highest concentration of five star hotels in the world. the casinos do 10X what the fight does over the course of the week.

hearn knows all of this. he's not willing to take the fight in the united states for the most money. he is increasingly looking like he's going to hide behind "dazone" even though joshua is actually a sky PPV fighter and makes most of his tv money there! very few people watch joshua on da zone. if he expects wilder to come to da zone it's because he expects wilder to be the one bringing in american TV money! it isn't joshua! not yet anyway, check out his ratings on showtime if you don't believe me. really. go check them out.


so who is being unreasonable, the guy who wants to fight for the most money and have the biggest fight in the world where it should be, las vegas, nevada? or the guy who wants to offer 15 million US flat and take the fight for less money in his backyard. for god knows whatever reason .

this is prizefighting. surely you understand that there are ulterior motives when hearn, the guy who ultimately decides what joshua does, says "let's both make less money or there is no fight at all."

surely you f#cking get that, right? i mean really, you get why that looks like a duck? "we both take less money or there is no fight."

ultimately boxing is about money. hearn is not willing to risk the asset he's got that can sell out stadiums for the next 3-5 years. joshua isn't afraid of anybody. he does not choose who he fights. his only likely recourse within his contract is would literally be to sit out and fight nobody, wilder or bust, or buy out a contract. hearn knows he can make a hell of a lot more money in the interim and that the fight will be there. in the interim they will both benefit from the publicity of a prospective fight with each other.

both bob arum and al haymon made hundreds of millions doing this with pacquiao and mayweather. the fight was there 6 years down the road! and they made all the money in the f#cking world!

do i think they will fight? of course they'll fight. but it won't be soon. eddie hearn has showed his hand, and you're dishonest if you disagree with anything i've said.

Eddie sending improved contracts on two occasions to wilders team doesn't seems like he doesn't want the fight.

He would have as well tell wilders team to go to hell after the first improved contract.

Al Harmon will have no choice than to accept the offer because no HW in his ranks is a ppv fighter not even wilder.

[Laligalaliga]

dude joshua - klitschko did less at the gate than hopkins - calzaghe. you just don't know what you're talking about when you say "HW resides in the UK." i am sorry. fights in las vegas generate more money. this fight will be HUGE in vegas. truly huge. it won't make 50% over there what it would with american PPV money, a las vegas site fee, and a las vegas gate. they pay you to fight at the casino FFS! ringside seats for mayweather - pacquiao were $100,000 on secondary markets at their peak. there's a neighboring state, california, with a bigger GDP than your entire country! there is a scale here that you're clearly not getting.


wilder is not going to make that much less money to fight in somebody else's backyard. hearn is being coy with a means of pushing the fight off. he's had a slightly different angle each time. notice that? fight dillian white first. 12 million. pay me 50 million. oh, you will? fight has to be in the UK. 15 million to wilder with no date set. nah we gotta fight povetkin. come to da zone. you see a pattern? every single one of these things is unreasonable. this is the biggest fight in boxing and wilder is not going to take a 12 or a 15 million dollar guarantee. he's not going to sign with da zone. he does not have to fight dillian white to prove a damn thing!

it is what it is, you guys are all dishonest men and you're letting eddie hearn push you around so you can show solidarity for a brit. i used to admire UK boxing fans. i really did. i thoguht it looked like a hell of a time, and i wanted to go over there for a big fight. now i'm ashamed of most of you. i really am. your behavior is shameful. you're enabling eddie hearn to push off this fight.

and you f#cking know it! you know it! you guys aren't dumb! it's sad to see.

I can see how proud you are been ripped off. You as a fan, will you be able to pay $100,000 to be at the ring side to see wilder fight?

American market is nothing but a rip off and killing the sport and everytime you guys complain about lack of interest in boxing by Americans.

The problem is not lack of interest but too high price. The US gate is nothing to be proud about cos it's total fraud.

I still maintain my stand that UK is the home of HW.

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