Vid: Ellerbe claims an article on BoxingScene is what made the fight a Catchweight

[Dinamita 03]

"The fight is at 152, but it's really not about the weight, it's the skill". Yup, which is why the fight isn't at 154. You can fool you're stupid lil fans, but you can't fool me.

^^ Spot on

[mathed]

"I'll fight Mayweather @ 150" - Saul Alvarez

If you want the fight this much then accept the offer which is given. Matter of fact, you made the offer in the first place, wether you were high, drunk or just naive/stupid when you laid it out there on the table, it doesn't matter. So, it's really on you - not the other way around (Canelo and his management).

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http://www.boxingscene.com/ellerbe-c...whipped--66057

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-il...-pounds--66014

[mathed]

So, Canelo lied? What does the date change? If it was 5-7 years ago, then yes, you MAY have had a point. You don't.

It changes nothing. You want the fight and you already laid the terms down for the person who's in the driver's seat - it's on you. They should learn how to play their cards right but they got eager.

The aforementioned article is still viable. Why should Floyd fight him at 154 when Canelo already said that he'll do anything to fight him at 150?

LMAO.....Floyd said he would never disadvantage a fighter and would always fight them at the weight that they felt most comfortable. That was just last year, but hey like you said, it could have been 7 years ago and it wouldn't matter.

Here is a handy link also courtesy of Boxing Scene: http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...ao-more--49151

Dated: 02/01/2012

[A-Wolf]

lmao ..........

[Joe Grizzley]

Did you check the date on that thing? Maybe if you go back a few years more, you find Alvarez wanting to fight at 147

Who cares? Ya'll are acting like its a 10 year old offer.

[_original_]

I don't blame Mayweather and his team for this honestly. Canelo and his management should have held out (like he did when he refused to fight under his PPVs) and firmly stated it's either at 154 or no fight; we walk. If the rumors are true that the Guerrero fight didn't meet financial expectations, they could have bid their time and gotten a better deal since they presented the most lucrative fight for Mayweather and Showtime. Instead they amateurishly put themselves into a disadvantage that didn't have to be there. This is a business and his team should have looked out for Alvarez' best interest, but either they believe it won't be an issue or they leaned on false confidence/assumption that it won't hinder Canelo's performance.

On Floyd's part, yes it's hypocritical and a contradiction from his previous statements but how is that any different from every other public figure, businessman, or politician who lies to us? Do you guys honestly believe every word Floyd and his team (who are in the million dollar business, mind you) publicly say and do you expect them to be objective, moral, and honest people?

[HeroBando]

Who cares? Ya'll are acting like its a 10 year old offer.

Well for one, maybe in 2011 he could hope to make 150, but not in 2013 having come in 172 last. So that will take a stale offer off the table.

Besides, when the offer was made Floyd was not holding a SWW belt. Since then he also bragged about giving his opponents their best weight. So you'd expect 154.

[Joe Grizzley]

Well for one, maybe in 2011 he could hope to make 150, but not in 2013 having come in 172 last. So that will take a stale offer off the table.

Besides, when the offer was made Floyd was not holding a SWW belt. Since then he also bragged about giving his opponents their best weight. So you'd expect 154.

Bro, he's 23 years old. He can make the weight a lot easier than if he was 31 as Cotto was. Its not a stale offer imho. Hitting the sweepstakes isn't about belts, its about millions of dollars. Trust me, Canelo doesn't care about the 2 lbs cuz he's not old enough to need to care about it. He cares about glory and a few million greenbacks.

When its all said and done Canelo's team funked themselves up by over extending themselves.

[HeroBando]

Bro, he's 23 years old. He can make the weight a lot easier than if he was 31 as Cotto was. Its not a stale offer imho. Hitting the sweepstakes isn't about belts, its about millions of dollars. Trust me, Canelo doesn't care about the 2 lbs cuz he's not old enough to need to care about it. He cares about glory and a few million greenbacks.

When its all said and done Canelo's team funked themselves up by over extending themselves.

So fighters will drain themselves for money, nothing new. How it will play out, we'll see. Floyd must be banking on weight struggle, else why make a fool of himself over nothing.

But I don't see how Team Canelo overextended. Nobody takes that old offer seriously except hard core flo mos, the guy has obviously grown and was recently insisting on 154.

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-il...-pounds--66014