Comments Thread For: Canelo: I Want Golovkin First in 2018 - No Other Fight Wanted!

[Strategic1]

If you don't know how to score a fight you'll believe someone deserves to win with useless agression while your opponent counters you to death with way higher accuracy. Basically if you think Mayweather lost to pac youll say canelo lost to ggg. Canelo won a clear 7 rds to 5.

Who are you trying to convince? Easily over 80% of viewers, former and current boxers, and boxing press scored it for GGG. 80%+ on this site too.

When the percentage is that high, then there is no other acceptable outcome.

Canelo lost.

[Johnny_Roa]

Who are you trying to convince? Easily over 80% of viewers, former and current boxers, and boxing press scored it for GGG. 80%+ on this site too.

When the percentage is that high, then there is no other acceptable outcome.

Canelo lost.

Many people also claimed Jacobs beat GGG and a high percentage of people on this site.

So what? Doesn't change any outcome.

Learn to deal with the scores, enjoy the fights, or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

[Strategic1]

Many people also claimed Jacobs beat GGG and a high percentage of people on this site.

So what? Doesn't change any outcome.

Learn to deal with the scores, enjoy the fights, or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

SO do you cry and get defensive/angry when people disagree with you?

Truth hurts.. fine. But you're proving yourself to be a fool.

[ramses07]

Who are you trying to convince? Easily over 80% of viewers, former and current boxers, and boxing press scored it for GGG. 80%+ on this site too.

When the percentage is that high, then there is no other acceptable outcome.

Canelo lost.

80% of viewers are casuals

This board is actually split down the middle by the regulars (not alts)

[ramses07]

Many people also claimed Jacobs beat GGG and a high percentage of people on this site.

So what? Doesn't change any outcome.

Learn to deal with the scores, enjoy the fights, or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

This right here

Good close fight

Seems the Aside wants the rematch

Can't complain

[ordinaryus h]

SO do you cry and get defensive/angry when people disagree with you?

Truth hurts.. fine. But you're proving yourself to be a fool.

the truth is canelo won that fckng fight by 2 rounds so you're proving urself to be an idiot ggg fanboy

[panson]

Hahahhahahahahahhahaha

Wow you ggg fans are true idiots.

You do realize dumb ass canelo is the boss here right.

Canelo tells ggg to jump and ggg responds with how high.

Ggg does what canelo and gbp tells him to do.

Like when GGG said give me my belt and Canelo dropped the title?

[Strategic1]

80% of viewers are casuals

This board is actually split down the middle by the regulars (not alts)

Wrong. The public poll for the fight had it. 75% for GGG 14% for Canelo.. and 11% draw.

Are you saying 50-60% of these are alts?..

Look the thread up.
some of you guys are in denial.

[Strategic1]

The board could be sometimes wrong.. But my point was..

When ALL (percentage-wise)TV viewers, boxers, press, and this board sees the outcome of the fight the SAME way, then the result should be pretty clear!

Sometimes not all agree with each other but in this case a high majority favored GGG.

[Boxing Logic]

If Canelo wants GGG again so badly, why is trying to stall the rematch until May? March is six months already, why not just do it in March? This is just one more thing that is killing boxing, even though it doesn't get talked about as much as all the other things that are killing boxing, and that delaying and sometimes even canceling the best fights unless both fighters can make the fight in May or September.

In other words, say it's June, two fighters are in the best form of their lives, and the best is ready to be made, its the perfect time, except one fighter has a small hand injury. No big deal, he can be ready to make the fight in October. And yet, because of the obsession over these two dates, instead of just making the fight when it's hot, the promoters say "If he's not ready to make the fight by September, then we can't make it this year. We have to wait until next May." So instead of a fight happening when its hot, and the division and the sport moving forward, everything gets delayed seven months, by which point the other boxer can suffer a more serious injury, or any of a number of things can happen.

Heck, Canelo-Cotto got delayed like an entire year simply due to the May-June dates as well, and that also delayed Canelo-GGG.

So here we have an aging, declining fighter, GGG, and a matchup, Canelo-GGG, that has already failed to live up to what it could have been because it got delayed for so long, but now they're looking to delay it another five months more than necessary just to line it up with these stupid dates.

So when you combine the delay before the rematch in order to line up with the dates, with the year long delay that already happened with Canelo-Cotto just to line up with the dates, you are looking at almost a year and half of basically dead space that has taken place among boxing's biggest stars and most interesting divisions the last five years, and for what? To make more money? If these promoters just used their brains, they would realize that a year and a half of wasted time in a boxer's short career is losing money, not making them more.

That year and a half wasted over just these friggin dates is the difference between Canelo-GGG happening when GGG is 33 and a half verses 35, a huge difference to the quality of the fight for the paying customer, and therefore a huge difference for word of mouth and the future pay-per-view market of the sport.

That year and a half wasted just over these friggin dates before GGG could become a mainstream star who could afford to pay his opponents big paydays is the difference between him being able to attract 3 more top opponents during his prime, and him having to settle for Kell Brook and Dominic Wade. It is the difference between boxing fans having gotten to see GGG-Charlo, GGG-Lara, and possibly even GGG-Ward, during GGG's prime, and boxing fans never getting to see those fights at all.

Now do fans, and any promoters reading this, realize the true negative effect, really the negative butterfly effect, that delaying the best fights for over half a year just to conform to these two specifics dates has? Not only are you spoiling the big fight itself by waiting too long to make it, but you are wasting years of both boxers primes, losing money off other big potential matchups involving them that could have already happened after their fight against each other had it been made on time, and preventing any other stars or rivalries or forward momentum at all to develop in the division because everyone else has to wait on this big fight to finally happen on the perfect date too, not just the two boxers involved themselves.

It totally ****s the sport. Middleweight should be the hottest division in boxing right now coming off of GGG-Canelo and GGG-Jacobs, but instead now the entire division at the top level is basically going to be put on ice again until GGG-Canelo II happens eight months from now. Sure, we might get Jacobs-Lemieux, which is great, but there will be no progress towards a full unification of the division, like there should have been years ago, because for the second year in a row, Team Canelo is making GGG wait to fight them while simultaneously also telling GGG not to fight anyone else in the meantime because he could get injured. There will also be no important mandatory fights taking place for the same reason, and those are supposed to be a key part of how the sport operates, meaning Jermall Charlo and Sergey Derevanchenko will also have their career momentum put on ice during what should be the hottest moment of their respective careers.

Now not only can neither GGG or Canelo, two of the biggest stars in the sport, build their legacies or generate money in boxing for the next eight months, all just so they can line up their schedules with one friggin date, but Charlo and Derevanchenko, two potential upcoming stars, can't breakthrough either, legacy-wise or economically. Once again, the butterfly effect. And it just goes on from there. Holding boxers legacies, prime years, stardom, and earning potential all hostage to only two dates, four months apart, per year, makes no sense on many different levels. I have no idea who first came up with this idea, but it was extremely shortsighted, and it's time for a change. Is 2017 actually going to be a turning point for boxing? Then it's time for the sport to prove it by doing away with outdated business strategies like these that are only hurting the sport. Let's see GBP and K2 put their money where their mouth is and make the fight in March, and in a fan friendly venue like Dallas stadium as well, rather than Vegas. Otherwise, if they wait until the beginning of summer to make the fight in the desert, again, then that will show that boxing is still married to the same shortsighted bulslh1t that puts money ahead of the sport, the fans, the boxers involved in the fight themselves, all the other boxers in and around their division, and money too. It makes no sense!