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  • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    Cotto should have fought a Mosley rematch but ducked it for Margarito.
    Why should he have fought Mosley when Margarito was they guy everyone was avoiding and talking about? Basically you're saying he should have pu$$ed out and took the easy way out. Thats the problem in todays boxing, fighers being pu$$y and avoiding the big fights.
    Last edited by Lords; 07-23-2017, 06:02 PM. Reason: as

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    • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      Don't blame me if you don't know the difference between #1 and Champion.

      Words do matter.

      But I agree with you. Cotto should've used Floyd's logic ducked #4 Margarito for #1 JMW Cory Spinks and won his a title in his 3rd weight class.

      Definitely a Mayweather "I'm my own boss" move.
      The Champion is obviously #1. That goes without saying.

      Then their list goes from #1-#10 after the Champion.

      I.e when Pacquaio beat Bradley he was ranked #1 but Mayweather was the Champion.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Gatti was #1 whilst Tszyu was Champion not Hatton.
        This is incorrect, my friend.

        Hatton fought Kosta June 5th 2005 making him the Champ. Floyd fought Gatti June 25th 2005, making Gatti #1 like I just said

        2005
        Ricky Hatton, Champion
        Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        Miguel Cotto
        Kostya Tszyu
        Jose Luis Castillo
        Junior Witter
        Carlos Maussa
        Arturo Gatti
        Vivian Harris
        DeMarcus Corley
        Lovemore N'dou

        Still ranked #1 though. Champion is #1 obviously and then after that it goes #1 to #10 after that
        .

        Now you're trying to blur the lines.

        Champion is Champion.

        #1 is #1. There's a difference.

        Baldomir was The Ring Champion so obviously #1 in that division.
        Once again, Baldomir was Champ and Margarito was #1. How many times do I have to post the Ring rankings for you guys?

        Baldomir was champ, like Hatton was Champ when Floyd fought Gatti.

        Margarito was #1, like Gatti was #1 when Floyd fought him.

        See the difference?

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          The Champion is obviously #1. That goes without saying.

          Then their list goes from #1-#10 after the Champion.

          I.e when Pacquaio beat Bradley he was ranked #1 but Mayweather was the Champion.
          Again, Margarito was always #1. Baldomir went from Ring #10 to Ring Champion. How do you not understand the difference:


          2005
          Zab Judah, Champion
          Antonio Margarito
          Cory Spinks
          Shane Mosley
          Luis Collazo
          Thomas Damgaard
          Kermit Cintron
          Jose Antonio Rivera
          Oktay Urkal
          David Estrada
          Carlos Manuel Baldomir

          2006
          Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
          Antonio Margarito
          Carlos Manuel Baldomir
          Miguel Cotto
          Zab Judah
          Luis Collazo
          Kermit Cintron
          Oktay Urkal
          Arturo Gatti
          Paul Williams
          Joshua Clottey

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          • Originally posted by Lords View Post
            Why should he have fought Mosley when Margarito was they guy everyone was avoiding and talking about? Basically you're saying he should have pu$$ed out and took the easy way out. Thats the problem in todays boxing, fighers being pu$$y and avoiding the big fights.
            Easy way out? He just had a razor thin win against Mosley in an either way fight.

            He chose Margarito because at the time it was seen as an easier fight. Cotto was a big favourite to win the Margarito fight.

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            • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
              This is incorrect, my friend.

              Hatton fought Kosta June 5th 2005 making him the Champ. Floyd fought Gatti June 25th 2005, making Gatti #1 like I just said

              2005
              Ricky Hatton, Champion
              Floyd Mayweather Jr.
              Miguel Cotto
              Kostya Tszyu
              Jose Luis Castillo
              Junior Witter
              Carlos Maussa
              Arturo Gatti
              Vivian Harris
              DeMarcus Corley
              Lovemore N'dou

              .

              Now you're trying to blur the lines.

              Champion is Champion.

              #1 is #1. There's a difference.



              Once again, Baldomir was Champ and Margarito was #1. How many times do I have to post the Ring rankings for you guys?

              Baldomir was champ, like Hatton was Champ when Floyd fought Gatti.

              Margarito was #1, like Gatti was #1 when Floyd fought him.

              See the difference?
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
              Again, Margarito was always #1. Baldomir went from Ring #10 to Ring Champion. How do you not understand the difference:


              2005
              Zab Judah, Champion
              Antonio Margarito
              Cory Spinks
              Shane Mosley
              Luis Collazo
              Thomas Damgaard
              Kermit Cintron
              Jose Antonio Rivera
              Oktay Urkal
              David Estrada
              Carlos Manuel Baldomir

              2006
              Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
              Antonio Margarito
              Carlos Manuel Baldomir
              Miguel Cotto
              Zab Judah
              Luis Collazo
              Kermit Cintron
              Oktay Urkal
              Arturo Gatti
              Paul Williams
              Joshua Clottey
              No the Champion is #1, obviously.

              Then it goes from #1-10 outside of the Champion

              Baldomir was the Champion I.e #1 in the division.

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              • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                No the Champion is #1, obviously.

                Then it goes from #1-10 outside of the Champion

                Baldomir was the Champion I.e #1 in the division.
                IronDan, if you want to use semantics then be my guest. If you want to go off how The Ring ranks fighters:

                Champion=Champion
                #1=#1
                #2=#2

                Theoretically, what you're saying is if Champion is #1, then #1 is #2... If that's the case, then #10 is really #11.... If that's the case then annually boxrec doesn't post Top 10 rankings; in reality they post Top 11 rankings.

                Let's look at what you're saying:

                Champion = #1

                #1=#2
                #2=#3
                #10=#11

                Correct?

                The Ring publishes the Top 11 rankings annually.

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                • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  Easy way out? He just had a razor thin win against Mosley in an either way fight.

                  He chose Margarito because at the time it was seen as an easier fight. Cotto was a big favourite to win the Margarito fight.
                  This idiot doesn't have a clue.

                  IronDanHamza

                  We may disagree in this thread, but I think we can all agree on this.

                  Can you please tell Robbie Barrett that in 2008, Shane Mosley was NEVER looked at as a bigger threat than Margarito?

                  Damn, Robbie, did you just start watching the sport yesterday? I might have to sig this

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                  • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                    IronDan, if you want to use semantics then be my guest. If you want to go off how The Ring ranks fighters:

                    Champion=Champion
                    #1=#1
                    #2=#2

                    Theoretically, what you're saying is if Champion is #1, then #1 is #2... If that's the case, then #10 is really #11.... If that's the case then annually boxrec doesn't post Top 10 rankings; in reality they post Top 11 rankings.

                    Let's look at what you're saying:

                    Champion = #1

                    #1=#2
                    #2=#3
                    #10=#11

                    Correct?

                    The Ring publishes the Top 11 rankings annually.
                    Essentially yeah that's what it is when there is a Champion.

                    They have to start from #1 after the Champion because there isn't always a Champion. So some years yeah it's a Top 11.

                    Obviously THE CHAMPION is #1 because he's the champion. That's common sense.

                    When there's a Champion the #1 is essentially #2. Out of the 10 #1's Floyd beat in the division being fought in. Gatti was the only one that was #1 on a technicality. The rest were the highest ranked fighter in the divison being fought it unless it was Floyd himself.

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                    • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                      This idiot doesn't have a clue.

                      IronDanHamza

                      We may disagree in this thread, but I think we can all agree on this.

                      Can you please tell Robbie Barrett that in 2008, Shane Mosley was NEVER looked at as a bigger threat than Margarito?

                      Damn, Robbie, did you just start watching the sport yesterday? I might have to sig this
                      Cotto was lucky to get the decision against Mosley and Cotto was a big favourite over Margarito. Of course Mosley was seen as a bigger threat.

                      Doesn't boxrec tell you that?
                      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 07-23-2017, 06:27 PM.

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