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This just proved how good Andre Ward is
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This is the problem with the majority of boxing fans and the media.
I'm not a fan of either Bute or Froch, but definitely give Froch a lot of respect for this win. He crushed Bute.
But here is the problem, just completely disregard that Bute shut out very good fighters in Sakio Bika and Glen Johnson, knocked out Andrade and Miranda, and manhandled outmatched opponents like Magee and Zuniga like he was supposed to. Just disregard these wins because he just lost a fight, call him hypejob, bum, never was any good just because of a loss. Then turn around and say this was a great win for Froch.
Seriously, Carl Froch just beat an elite fighter in Lucian Bute, don't take credit away from the win by saying Bute is a hypejob. The truth is, to beat Johnson and Bika the way Bute did, you HAVE to be either a VERY good fighter or an elite fighter. At least Bute is one of those too. And Froch beat him.
IMO, Bute did not get exposed, he is not a hype job, and he is not a bum, Froch just had the style to steamroll through Bute. That's all. Ward vs Bute goes the distance, with Ward probably winning. Ward most likely dominates Froch again. Bute vs Kessler probably ends up being a close fight, Kessler vs Froch II would probably end up being a close fight, Bute probably beats Abraham, Bute probably beats Pavlik, Dirrell probably beats Bute, Kessler, and Froch. Styles make fights. When will all this "Blah Blah Blah got exposed, he's not good, I knew it" stop?
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostThis is the problem with the majority of boxing fans and the media.
I'm not a fan of either Bute or Froch, but definitely give Froch a lot of respect for this win. He crushed Bute.
But here is the problem, just completely disregard that Bute shut out very good fighters in Sakio Bika and Glen Johnson, knocked out Andrade and Miranda, and manhandled outmatched opponents like Magee and Zuniga like he was supposed to. Just disregard these wins because he just lost a fight, call him hypejob, bum, never was any good just because of a loss. Then turn around and say this was a great win for Froch.
Seriously, Carl Froch just beat an elite fighter in Lucian Bute, don't take credit away from the win by saying Bute is a hypejob. The truth is, to beat Johnson and Bika the way Bute did, you HAVE to be either a VERY good fighter or an elite fighter. At least Bute is one of those too. And Froch beat him.
IMO, Bute did not get exposed, he is not a hype job, and he is not a bum, Froch just had the style to steamroll through Bute. That's all. Ward vs Bute goes the distance, with Ward probably winning. Ward most likely dominates Froch again. Bute vs Kessler probably ends up being a close fight, Kessler vs Froch II would probably end up being a close fight, Bute probably beats Abraham, Bute probably beats Pavlik, Dirrell probably beats Bute, Kessler, and Froch. Styles make fights. When will all this "Blah Blah Blah got exposed, he's not good, I knew it" stop?
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Originally posted by Joeyzagz View PostWard is not that good
If you think he has the balls or power to stop a Bute in 5 rounds your kidding yourself.
The man in your avatar (Calzaghe) probably wouldn't have been able to get a stoppage over Bute,does that make him "not that great" or less of a fighter??? no.
Ward has proven himself to be the best in his division.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostThis is the problem with the majority of boxing fans and the media.
I'm not a fan of either Bute or Froch, but definitely give Froch a lot of respect for this win. He crushed Bute.
But here is the problem, just completely disregard that Bute shut out very good fighters in Sakio Bika and Glen Johnson, knocked out Andrade and Miranda, and manhandled outmatched opponents like Magee and Zuniga like he was supposed to. Just disregard these wins because he just lost a fight, call him hypejob, bum, never was any good just because of a loss. Then turn around and say this was a great win for Froch.
Seriously, Carl Froch just beat an elite fighter in Lucian Bute, don't take credit away from the win by saying Bute is a hypejob. The truth is, to beat Johnson and Bika the way Bute did, you HAVE to be either a VERY good fighter or an elite fighter. At least Bute is one of those too. And Froch beat him.
IMO, Bute did not get exposed, he is not a hype job, and he is not a bum, Froch just had the style to steamroll through Bute. That's all. Ward vs Bute goes the distance, with Ward probably winning. Ward most likely dominates Froch again. Bute vs Kessler probably ends up being a close fight, Kessler vs Froch II would probably end up being a close fight, Bute probably beats Abraham, Bute probably beats Pavlik, Dirrell probably beats Bute, Kessler, and Froch. Styles make fights. When will all this "Blah Blah Blah got exposed, he's not good, I knew it" stop?
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This win makes Ward's win over Froch even more valid and even though there is now no need or demand for a Ward/ Bute fight-this is Froch's victory...no need to take that away or turn it into a greater win for Ward...
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I didn't need anymore proof, Ward is that bit special.
I'm not going to join in with the 'Bute is a bum' thing either. He lost to a top level fighter, it happens. Give the man a chance to redeem himself.
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