Corbin says ; he homes of rich people in Kensington should be SEIZED

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The problems Venezuela are facing have less to do with Socialism and more to do with the economic sanctions the mighty USA have hit them with.

Whereas Capitalism is working out just great, huh?

Yes it is...

Most stable countries

Most developed

Highest standard of living

Richest

Best technology

Easy transfers of power

Elections

Etc
Etc



Notice how china thrived and became a superpower when they started introducing capitalistic reforms


Same thing with Russia..


What's the difference between north and South Korea?


Look at Japan and how well run of a country they have.. now look at Venezuela



Every country that has taken the approach of capitalism has strived...



1. Can you name all the failed capitalist countries??

2. Why are third worlders always fleeing their socialized countries and flocking to the "oppressive" capitalist USA?????


2 easy questions, but I will wait as you dodge

[EL_GRINGO]

Using empty houses to provide shelter to people who have just gone through hell, lost their homes, their possessions etc...

What a novel idea.

Seizing people homes ,tell the truth empty or not

[EL_GRINGO]

Using empty homes to help people who have lost everything in a fire, possibly including their family

How dare Corbyn suggest a thing

You people are pathetic with these threads, you are a stain on society

Seizing empty privately owned homes tell the truth,why don't they rent hotel rooms for these people,or use an empty gym payed for by owner of the building that caught fire

[EL_GRINGO]

I'n my country the socialist party is always involved in scandals very much more so then any other party in the country,it's always the same with socialist,there supposed to be for the poor but they steal the most from the tax money,there's a big scandal going on now where the socialist party even stole from homeless organization in our capitol,thousands of dollars for meetings that's supposed to go to the homeless,stealing quality mattresses and other things that are donated for the homeless anding up in socialist politicians homes,employing family but they never really have a job still get a months wage and the list goes on and on,socialist are the most corrupt politicians there are,they say they're for the poor but they only fill their own pockets,and the less fortunate are stupid enough to vote for them

[Adamjr91]

Agreed.

Nationalising railways is completely necessary. They still subsidise these private companies anyway it's a joke.

What always gets me is that a Tory government has no revenue apart from taxation.

Tories don't do anything because they never do anything about anything other than sell things without the fundamental understanding that when you sell something it's not yours anymore.

The NHS for example could make it's own simple medical supplies at cost. Simple stuff like dressings, saline solution, various skin prep solutions, generic meds. NHS trusts get it at cost here and we can sell everything abroad utilising the NHS brand.

Out of all the bright sparks in this country why isn't the NHS in itself essentially a global commercial brand? Selling expertise, treatments, and medical supplies. 'Keeping people alive since the 1940's and not ruining their fucking lives could be their tag-line'

Offer private care within NHS hospitals. If Lord Twatface goes into hospital to get his kidney stones removed and he doesn't want to stay in a bay with the plebs he can pay for his own side room.

Patients' currently pay an outside company if they want access to a tele, films etc (it is really expensive too about £15 a day). That shouldn't exist. Don't renew that contract ffs, because how can you allow that profiteering and have a nurse in ICU on 21k a year? Patients' should pay the NHS for the tele not hospedia or whatever that company is.

It's expensive but develop new drugs including the ones we need like new antibiotics (we know there's no money in them but we do need new ones or we'll be dying of simple infections in a 100 years). But develop drugs for the drugs that insidious health issues that cost us billions and have the biggest human cost.

Right now it's dementia and for me it likely always will be until the antibiotics stop working. Living too long and losing our marbles. It will happen to a lot of us the simple physiology of ageing.

If the NHS developed a drug that stopped the aggregrate of the protein within the brain that causes alzheimers (there is already a drug like that) but requires funding and human trials. If Britain successfully developed a preventative drug for that it would save health and social care billions upon billions upon billions. And the NHS could sell it for billions upon billion upon billions.

The NHS itself can also commit to fundraising imo.

The NHS especially is in the situation that it needs more government involvement not less. Certainly not devolving powers to individual cities and ring fencing spending. That isn't going to help.

And Grenfell towers shows us we need more government involvement at local level where social inequalities are there highest. Kensington is lucky they elected a labour MP this time because nothing will be swept under the rug.

This is a well thought out post.

Whereas Capitalism is working out just great, huh?

America's brand of capitalism has done fantastically well for Puerto Rico, has it not?

Seizing people homes ,tell the truth empty or not

An untold amount of people burned alive last night because of corruption, inequality and greed and this is the narrative you are running with?

What the **** is wrong with you?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

America's brand of capitalism has done fantastically well for Puerto Rico, has it not?

Puerto Rico bankrupted itself by having stupid liberal fiscal policies that chased off the businesses that provided the revenue.. no businesses or not enough and the liberal spending can't be sustained..



Explain how free markets and consumer choice and the right to start a business are bad things?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

This is a well thought out post.



America's brand of capitalism has done fantastically well for Puerto Rico, has it not?



An untold amount of people burned alive last night because of corruption, inequality and greed and this is the narrative you are running with?

What the **** is wrong with you?

How did corruption, inequality, and greed start a fire? I'm not trying to be a dick, I honestly want to know. I don't know all the details of the actual fire itself...

[Sane Man]

Puerto Rico bankrupted itself by having stupid liberal fiscal policies that chased off the businesses that provided the revenue.. no businesses or not enough and the liberal spending can't be sustained..



Explain how free markets and consumer choice and the right to start a business are bad things?

[1bad65]

2. Why are third worlders always fleeing their socialized countries and flocking to the "oppressive" capitalist USA?????

Remember, the Berlin Wall wasn't built keep people OUT. It was built to keep people IN.

There's a reason for that, and it's not because capitalism is the bad system.

To those advocating/defending socialism....
Ask yourself, why do socialist nations have to put up walls and guard towers to keep people in, and they kill them for trying to leave?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

That's not a strawman...


Capitalism is free markets, consumer choice and a right to start a business..


That is capitalism


So if you are against capitalism, explain how these are bad and affect society in a negative way?


Shouldn't be very hard since you are adamant that capitalism is bad