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  • Floyd Mayweather never had a Marquee opponent!

    In boxing most fighters are associated with other fighters that define each other’s career. One name mention and instantly another name gets attached to that one particular fighter. However, Floyd Mayweather seems to be the only fighter in the world that seems not to be in this situation. Not understanding what I mean? Let’s break it down.

    When we think of Ali , Frazier’s name should jump straight in your mind and to a lesser stent Foremen.

    Pacquiao- Marquez
    Forrest - Mosley
    Mosley - Delahoya
    Tarver - Jones Jr
    Bradley - Pacquiao
    Froch - Kessler
    Taylor - Hopkins
    Pavlik - Taylor
    GGG - Canelo
    Leonard - Duran
    Hearns - Leonard
    Hagler - Leonard
    Morales - Berrea
    Holyfield- Tyson
    Gatti - Ward

    Even in UFC you can see to Ones peanut butter there’s a jelly.

    Ortiz - Lidell
    McGregor - Diaz and Khabib
    And etc.

    There’s no fighter that really was matched with Floyd besides manny. However they only fought one. Floyd was the favorite and it really wasn’t competitive. Maidana And Castillo are the only two fighters you can honestly say made Floyd “Work” for his win. Let’s be honest 9/10 times Floyd out boxes and land slide beats both boxers. The fact that Floyd had two off nights in his career proves how good he was to still win.

    Yes, manny is a P4P great due to the fact he was a smaller fighter that was able to move up Multiple Weight classes but Still manages to have a lot more road bumps in his career.

    When we think of Floyd. We honestly can’t really find a clear opponent to say, yes that was Floyd’s Ken to his Ryu.


    Floyd will go down and be remembered for three things in boxing.

    1.the greatest defensive fighter ever.

    2. Being Undefeated. (Point Blank)

    3. The Roy Jones Measuring sticks curse.

    Now 3 three is an important part of this discussion. Roy just like Floyd were levels ahead of their opponents. Just like Roy to a lesser point very less. Never fought anybody on their level while at their prime facing a prime opponent. Roy did beat james toney. Ok fine but outside of that. Roy’s prime was amazing against sub par fighters out side Griffith. When Roy got to a live body in Traver things started to look different. Yes I know Roy was older and just got back from heavyweight. But before that he had no measuring stick. However Roy was Travors Marquee Opponent in his career and vice verse. It’s hard not to think about Roy and not Travor.

    Now Floyd is a special case. Hatton and others were in their prime but Floyd was so good it just didn’t matter but once again There’s no justifiable name that comes to mind that we can honest match up with Floyd in his career.


    Floyd is was so good he just didn’t have one and it wasn’t his fault. Yes manny will go down more popular but not necessarily better.

    TBE.
    Last edited by Removed Now; 05-26-2020, 12:05 AM.

  • #2
    This makes no sense to me at all especially listing the likes of Bradley Pac as some sort of significant thing, the only way you get tied to somebody is to have a equal great in a timeless classic match , it hardly applies to this generation because the nature of the sport today and the only two real standouts were Floyd and Manny.

    Cant make anything out of what youre trying to paint..

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    • #3
      Floyd was peerless inside the ring. Part due to his skill part due to his era.

      Floyd was so good neither JLC nor Maidana were able to win once. Other great fighters don't win every fight against opponents who "have their number".

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      • #4
        Not doing rematches was a bad move he's badly advized. Every great fighter fought rematch or triologies.
        When you think of willie pep you got Sandy sadler. When you think srl you think duran or hearns.

        You need to give biggest rivals rematches. Even if your fans don't want it, it's not just your fans you need to think of. You want to silence your opponents fans or your critics.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 05-25-2020, 04:41 PM.

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        • #5
          Not on paper but Castillo and Madaina beat him and he seek rematches with both because he knew he lost so he needed them to make it right by beating them in rematches. Think about it never had rematches with no one else but Those two . As a boxer you know when your beat anyone who has box knows the feeling when you were beat or you were not sure because the fight was close. Didn’t have a rematch with Oscar a fight that could have gone to Oscar if he had Mayweather type judges going in his favor . Could have rematch Pacquaio many thought Pacquaio won but no only those 2 got rematches

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
            In boxing most fighters are associated with other fighters that define each other’s career. One name mention and instantly another name gets attached to that one particular fighter. However, Floyd Mayweather seems to be the only fighter in the world that seems not to be in this situation. Not understanding what I mean? Let’s break it down.

            When we think of Ali , Frazier’s name should jump straight in your mind and to a lesser stent Foremen.

            Pacquiao- Marquez
            Forrest - Mosley
            Mosley - Delahoya
            Tarver - Jones Jr
            Bradley - Pacquiao
            Froch - Ward
            Taylor - Hopkins
            Pavlik - Taylor
            GGG - Canelo
            Leonard - Duran
            Hearns - Leonard
            Hagler - Leonard
            Morales - Berrea
            Holyfield- Tyson
            Gatti - Ward

            Even in UFC you can see to Ones peanut butter there’s a jelly.

            Ortiz - Lidell
            McGregor - Diaz and Khabib
            And etc.

            There’s no fighter that really was matched with Floyd besides manny. However they only fought one. Floyd was the favorite and it really wasn’t competitive. Maidana And Castillo are the only two fighters you can honestly say made Floyd “Work” for his win. Let’s be honest 9/10 times Floyd out boxes and land slide beats both boxers. The fact that Floyd had two off nights in his career proves how good he was to still win.

            Yes, manny is a P4P great due to the fact he was a smaller fighter that was able to move up Multiple Weight classes but Still manages to have a lot more road bumps in his career.

            When we think of Floyd. We honestly can’t really find a clear opponent to say, yes that was Floyd’s Ken to his Ryu.


            Floyd will go down and be remembered for three things in boxing.

            1.the greatest defensive fighter ever.

            2. Being Undefeated. (Point Blank)

            3. The Roy Jones Measuring sticks curse.

            Now 3 three is an important part of this discussion. Roy just like Floyd were levels ahead of their opponents. Just like Roy to a lesser point very less. Never fought anybody on their level while at their prime facing a prime opponent. Roy did was janes toney. Ok fine bit outside of that. Roy’s prime was amazing against sub par fighters out side Griffith ok. When Roy got to a live body in Traver things started to look different. Yes I know Roy was older and just got back from heavyweight. But before that he had no measuring stick. However Roy was Travors Marquee Opponent in his career and vice verse. It’s hard not to think about Roy and not Travor.

            Now Floyd is a special case. Hatton and others were in their prime but Floyd was so good it just didn’t matter but once again There’s no justifiable name that comes to mind that we can honest match up with Floyd in his career.


            Floyd is was so good he just didn’t have one and it wasn’t his fault. Yes manny will go down more popular but not necessarily better.

            TMT.
            Mostly agree but gotta point out Ward-Froch only fought once. If that made your list then there's no reason Manny shouldn't have made the list without you speaking it away like you did.
            Although Ward-Kovalev would've been a better option.

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            • #7
              wtf is wrong with this forum?? floyd threads over and freaking over again...Floyd was just better then everyone else....get over it damn

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Not doing rematches was a bad move he's badly advized. Every great fighter fought rematch or triologies.
                When you think of willie pep you got Sandy sadler. When you think srl you think duran or hearns.

                You need to give biggest rivals rematches. Even if your fans don't want it, it's not just your fans you need to think of. You want to silence your opponents fans or your critics.
                He rematched his 2 closest fights..simple and plain..if others wanted another shot then they should have been better..

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                • #9
                  Floyd had the 3 highest selling fights in the history of the sport so yes I agree he had no marquee opponents at all.

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                  • #10
                    If you don't give biggest rivals rematches your leaving questions unanswered. People want to know how Floyd would do in rematches against biggest rivals. Biggest rivals are opponents who have as good resume as you or better, or are as big as name as you when all is said and done.
                    Floyd didn't fight abroad so leaving questions unanswered there also.

                    There's comes a point when you ask yourself are you taking the Mickey out of us floyd? Are you taking us for mugs? Do you think we can't see it?
                    Being mysterious don't get you far in this game
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 05-25-2020, 04:50 PM.

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