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The myth about Arum keeping Pac away from floyd 09-10
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Posttook him years?? he fought floyd in 2013!!. LOL
he was mexico's best at that time. undefeated record, "i was born ready"!!! then got schooled 0-12, but yet he did 900k against cotto, against chavez jr 1mil, and now against ggg 1mil again. and the rematch will likely hit 1mil again LOL.
pac's ppv sales took a dive after marquez because look at who he fought??? rios??? algeiri??? bradley??? vargas??? but then look what happen when he was matched against floyd (a credible opponent)????
Why do you think he fought on HBO after the Mayweather fight? If the loss didn't affect him wouldn't he have been on PPV? They had to build him back up.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThis is a false equivalence fallacy.
ODH and Bob have different business models relative to building a fighter. Canelo was much younger than Manny when he fought Floyd so there was more time for his career to be rebuilt after a loss.
What you believe IMO comes down to if you are honest about the boxer Floyd is.
If you are someone that calls Floyd "fraud" and makes threads that inferior fighters could beat him, pretend he was scared of Manny, avoid talking about the people that refused to fight him etc etc, then you will never admit what roach made clear.
However, if despite how you feel about him, you give him credit for his talent and gifts as a fighter, then its easy to see why Bob would avoid a fight with him.
i havent made any threads about floyd being afraid of manny?
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Postim not here to discuss blood testing. there's another thread for that. im here to exposed the lies that bob arum was keeping pac away because if pac loses to floyd then its gonna hurt his ppv buys.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post2013-2017 = 4 years.
Why do you think he fought on HBO after the Mayweather fight? If the loss didn't affect him wouldn't he have been on PPV? They had to build him back up.
canelo fought angulo after floyd and did 350k.
when canelo fought smith and did 300k, yall was on here saying that's decent nunbers considering the snooze fest in the floyd/pac fight that had turn off a lot of boxing fans from buying.
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Postim not here to discuss blood testing. there's another thread for that. im here to exposed the lies that bob arum was keeping pac away because if pac loses to floyd then its gonna hurt his ppv buys.
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Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Postso are u saying u dont think pacs value would of fell off if he got beat by floyd even tho a lot his rise to mainstream was on the back of being the hope to beat floyd and that floyd was scared etc? come on bro this comparison is so invalid
his ppv sales took a dive after 2015 when losing to floyd because by then, he couldnt perform like how he used too. so the hype is gone since he wasnt beating on his opponents anymore.
if losing to floyd will hurt his ppv, then when marquez knocked him out silly in 2012, that should have ruin the super mega fight in 2015 right?
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